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Old 29-08-2008, 06:16 PM
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What kebab does the dog have? Is it a shish or a doner?
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Old 29-08-2008, 06:31 PM
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this is disgusting, call the RSPCA, the dog at leat deserves that
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Old 29-08-2008, 06:38 PM
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The dog is probably in a routine with that family. So probably isn't really missing out on anything. As long as she loves her owners and they love her... And she is fed and watered and loved..
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Old 29-08-2008, 06:48 PM
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The dog is probably in a routine with that family. So probably isn't really missing out on anything. As long as she loves her owners and they love her... And she is fed and watered and loved..
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She's missing out on ESSENTIAL veterinary care!!!
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Old 29-08-2008, 06:52 PM
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You are telling all of this to the wrong people in all honesty.

What you have just written and the emotion you show about this dog need to be told directly to your girlfriend's parents, mainly her father. Some people may get upset and bad words may be thrown in but for what is at stake and it seems that everyone involves does love the dog a great deal then everyone needs to understand that it is the dog that is at risk and something needs to be done.

You don't need to go in a shout your head off. Just set some time aside when you know both parents will be there, go round and start with the opening line of "Hi, I'm here today to discuss Jade and how we can all work together to give her the quality of life she deserves." Then just explain how you treat your dog (is saw the pic in your signature), how people treat their dogs and what it means to a dog to be given the basic needs of being a dog i.e. exercise and the chance to explore it's surroundings. Explain that no matter how much you love your girlfriend and respect the way they live their lives, you can not sit back on this and see the dog in this state knowing it will only get worse. Explain how if Judy is taken to the vets that they will not immediately call any authorities but can advise what can be done to get the growths reduced and deal with any health issues they can. After that it is up to all involved to assist in making Judy's last years the best they can.

Getting out with a dog is not only good for the daog it is good for those that walk them. Good for your health, your mind and brilliant for bonding if you walk with someone else.

There are many benefits to owning a dog as we know but there is only one consequence of neglecting one.

I hope it works out and Judy gets the attention she needs.
Her name is Jade lol and I have tried and tried to tell her family that this isn't how a dog should live but they just think because she's old, it doesn't matter if she doesn't get walked and things. You can't get through to them at all, it would only take someone of authority like a vet or even higher still, the RSPCA to knock it into them that Jade could have a better way of life if they committed themselves. Jade has just been let to become very lazy and doesn't see walking as an exciting treat, thats why she gets tired because she's not had that want to go out.

I can't just "pop round" to theirs as we live quite a few miles apart. Just when I've visited I've mentioned things, things like walking, jabs and general dog welfare, but its like talking to a brick wall.
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Re: Worried..

Please correct me if I am wrong but.......... your gF still lives with her parents, yes? Well then the dog is a family dog - can your gf not take her for a walk? Can she not pick sh*t up from the garden? Just cos you live with dirty bast*rds doesnt mean you have to be one!! Just because you live with people who think it's ok to neglect their dog doesnt mean you have to allow it!! Sorry to be blunt Cavygirl but dont bleat about the dog on a pet owners forum - do something to help it.
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I am sure there are two sides to all stories.. I personally do not know this man or the dog and its family therefor its very hard to make judgement.
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I am sure there are two sides to all stories.. I personally do not know this man or the dog and its family therefor its very hard to make judgement.
And also how does the dog get to meet the kid from over the road if it never goes out???
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Hi,

Reading your post was like having de-ja-vu for me. My fella's parents had a black lab that they treated by the sounds of it exactly the same was as your girlfriends parents are treating jade. Constant human food, no walks etc. Their lab ended up at 60kg when he should have been about 27kg according to their vet , their excuse was always "look at his paws, he's a big lab anyway". It go to the point where the dog could no longer go upstairs, and a 5 minute walk had him out of action for about 3 weeks after.

I know its hard when you have no control over the situation, but I'm very straight talking and even though I say it how it is my mother-in-law actually loves the bones of me . I constantly had a go and eventually they took him to the vets who told them off good and proper for the state he was in, but no he wasn't taken off them. Me and my other half when we went round (we had long moved out by this point) used to take him out for a walk which shamed them into doing more themselves.

Unfortunatly their dog died from cancer, so actually unrelated to his massive weight problem or all the crap he was eating (including chocolate ). When we were getting our second pup and their was still some of the litter available they talked about maybe getting on too. I told them in no uncertain terms would I let them have one, and that I would tell the breeder not to even entertain the idea of them if they even thought of approaching her. They now do not have a dog, and to be honest I think that is the kindest thing to the dog world.

We take our 2 round occassionally and I have now stopped taking them cuz they insist of feeding them crap even though me and my fella have had numerous arguments with them about it, you don't even want to know how much it kicked off when they fed my boy some quality street a couple of months ago

My only advise to you and your girlfriend is, if she can get her to the vets she works at that would be great, even if she did it behind her dads back? And when you are both there why don't you start taking Jade out for little walks yourself?

Unfortunately some people are so blind, but if you 2 can do a little for Jade maybe it will shame them into getting off their own arses and looking after her properly.

Good luck, I know how hard and frustrating this sort of situation is
I would really love Jade to go in and be checked over but my gf works about 10 minutes drive away (she gets the bus there and back) so it couldn't be behind her dads back at all plus we do occationally when I'm there, walk Jade, but her mum is so ignorant and says "don't walk her too far, it really upsets her" and all this crap and we've taken her for about 10/15 minutes before and she's ahead of us walking to walk further! It wouldn't encourage her family to get off their arses at all because they don't agree Jade should be walked and with the fact she's not been jabbed, does put a risk of her catching something when out.

Thanks also for your reply! This is making me feel people do understand where my gf and I are coming from, because this is happening to Jade now and she may have only another yr or two in her, but she's capable of doing what other dogs do half her age! Plus this could all happen to another dog they may get in the future so teaching them now would benefit any future dogs.
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Re: Worried..

I can appreciate that you want this Staffie to have a much better quality of life and you've been given some good advice already but I think you may be a bit too closely involved to be able to see the more positive points of the situation.

The family took the dog from rescue and the Staffie immediately bonded with the father.
She has been with them since 2000 and she's part of the family, sweet natured and good tempered. She's being fed in a rather haphazard way but isn't obese. (Onion is harmful as it causes a form of anaemia but an otherwise healthy dog can cope with occasional small amounts without noticable effect - the red blood cells are just relaced naturally). The small fatty lumps she had when she came obviously are not malignant even though they have grown somewhat over the eight years - quite likely they are lipoma which are painless and harmless.

The Staffie is only having exercise in a dirty, paved area - not good by any way, but could not your girlfriend clean up the dog poo and swill down the area every couple of days, after all, she lives there. And both of you pick up a lead to take the dog out. If the parents object on the grounds that the dog hasn't had shots, then that's your intro to discuss getting the Staffie to the vet or have one of your girlfriend's vet nurse colleagues to call round informally to see the dog. Current veterinary advice is that in situations where a dog does not have regular vaccinations, provided the dog was vaccinated at some point after three months of age that is often sufficient. It seems most likely the Staffie would have had shots either with her first owner or in rescue.

Again far better for her to see the vet and get regular shots and get her lumps looked at - and to start taking short walks suitable for a dog of her age.
I think there is a lot you and your girlfriend can do in a calm, rational manner, without making a huge fuss, and getting the outside area clean would be a good start.

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