so kangals are Anatloians?

ive been researching Central Asian Ovcharkas for 5 years and plan to get my first in roughly 8-10 years.
I have had large dogs all my life and mals for 10yrs but still dont consider myself knowledgable enough for one

Do as much research as possible!

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Yeah I'll contact the breed club, I've found everything possible via the net and books, just need to talk to some people who own/have owned a Kangal and talk about what area they will live in,what activities the dog would do and the rest, and see how it goes. I do feel I have enough knowledge being a trainer to be ready for one, and also the area around here is perfect for dogs, outdoors most of the time and do farm work, but need to speak to people who have owned them and see what they think and learn more.

There was no summing up of your character and therefore no judgement of you. I was simply illustrating your statement as incorrect and your choice of learning (Wiki) as the road to ruin.
You must understand that as part of a generation of people who have grown up with and keep specialist breeds the concern I have for their immediate future is a legitimate one.
Furthermore, to claim one trusts a breeder might be a falsehood we can easily fool ourselves with, but you must closely consider breeders don't always breed dogs for the love of it. Money sets presedence over principle and money is its own.
All too often folks take on a giant breed (because they like big dogs) only to find the animal quickly outgrows their real capabiity and capacity to control and adequately provide for the animal.
Any dog of this nature should not be destined for a life in the confines of suburbia. Its cruel and nutures many severe problems because of a lack of physical/mental stimulation. A problem dog of this size is a disaster waiting to happen.
As owners of the Sar' we are continually aware of the bad press attached to the animal and all because of a minority of careless people who completely underestimated the true potential of the dog because they failed quite miserably to research the breed. To them it was simply a big dog and that was all they ever considered. It never once dawned upon them that the animal had a brain and one that could often out think them.
These are just the tip of the ice berg folks who have corrupted and set the wrong image of an otherwise magnificent animal. This image also applies to the Caucasian and both are a small illustration of how to destroy a breed by simply allowing it into the wrong hands.

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Gentle as the Lamb. Ruthless like the Wolf.

i think Turkeylad on here is knowledgable about this breed

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We have doomed the Wolf not for what it is, but for what we have deliberately and mistakenly perceived it to be..the mythologized epitome of a savage, ruthless killer..which is, in reality no more than a reflexed images of ourself." -Farley Mowat

Yeah I understand where you coming from and appreciate your concern and thoughts.

I don't just like big dogs, I've lived with them all my life and been training them for 9 years now, and know how to handle them perfectly. (Mastiffs, Huskies, GSD, Ridge Back, Rotties etc etc) Sometimes when I post on forums am not very clear really, you just post something without giving a full picture of your self and people see it like that for example. Maybe read this topic: My Introduction & Dog Topic


Thanks for the help all.