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Old 04-08-2010, 07:41 PM
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Re: pitbulls save Chi from coyote?

OMG!!

Although that exact thing happened to my Chiweenie. She just sat their squashed in the stroller next to the baby with a WTF!! expression on her face! I really wanted to point out that they had shoved a mix of the 2 most likely to bite breeds into their childs face..
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Thumbs down stuffing a dog into an [occupied] stroller or pram...

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Although that exact thing happened to my Chiweenie. She just sat their squashed in the stroller next to the baby with a WTF!! expression on her face! I really wanted to point out that they had shoved a mix of the 2 most likely to bite breeds into their childs face...
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Re: pitbulls save Chi from coyote?

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why save the little monster from a hungry coyote, who deserves to live as much as any other animal?
Erm...are you saying that you think it would have been better for the coyote to eat the chi?

Crikey, I best keep you away from my Aunty's Bruno!

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Plus I think to be a chi owner you have to have a sense of humour as no-one takes you seriously - training classes are great fun, as for agility courses (stepladders anyone) and flyball.............................
Can vouch for that. My aunty got hers when she was going through Chemo. He's hilarious. He's proper little guard dog but as soon as you're in the house he's all over you, climbing onto your knee for kisses! When my uncle (proper, big burly army officer) takes him for walks its brill! He gets so many funny looks!

I love him to bits, him and Rupert are always playing together when we go round!
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Talking i should have labeled it, SARCASM ALERT...

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Erm...are you saying that you think it would have been better for the coyote to eat the chi?
Crikey, I best keep you away from my Aunty's Bruno!
yer aunty would probly have more sense than to let her wee dog run loose in coyote country...
hopefully the owner of this Chi learned that lesson thoroughly - she + the toy-dog were both very lucky, this time; it is vanishingly un-likely that the Chi would be so lucky twice.

do i literally think coyotes deserve to live more than Chis? of course not.
this was tongue in cheek, YEESH i thought it was spozed to be us Yanks who don't get sarcastic humor?!


do i think all predators should die?
absolutely not; the invading emigres and their offspring in the USA did a $#%^! good job extirpating predators
over their 1st 350 years here, from approx 1500 to 1950, and i for one am deeply glad to see them coming back.
without them to keep prey-popns in check, the environment as a whole has been severely damaged.

as just One case in point:
which was the earliest species to profit from the return of wolves to Yellowstone?
cutthroat trout - which no one anticipated or predicted; elk + other ungulates had taken to hanging around water;
the banks were broken down, watersides stripped of any edible vegetation taller than grasses, erosion put a silt-load
in the water, lack of shade sent the water-temp soaring + reduced the O2-carrying capacity of the water...
enter the wolf, or rather RE-enter:
wolves are not stupid; elk have to drink, so do whitetail or mule-deer, etc.
toot-sweet, the ungulates began avoiding watercourses; streambank willows re-sprouted, banks were stabilized, SHADE re-established, water-temps dropped, gravel-beds for spawning were peeled of their silt burden, water-clarity improved, and trout-popns soared.

the moral of the story is, don't mess with the googol - U don't know enough, and it never turns out anywhere near
what U had envisioned. a predator-free lower-48 was a disaster; white-tail popns are still well-beyond even the massively enriched
carrying capacity of the New-Normal, with huge amounts of the edge habitat they love.

i was, however, utterly factual + accurate when i said that a MUCH higher proportion of all the Pitbulls i have met
[AmStaff, APBT, and just plain-old 'grade', non-breed pit-types] were highly human-affiliative, vs the sum total of Chis
who were the same...
most Chis look at non-family humans with an extremely jaundiced and prejudiced eye, IME.
perhaps one in 10 is open, friendly + willing to be touched - not picked-up, petted - by a friendly stranger,
who introduces her/himself politely; most of the rest would prefer U just go away -- Now, thanks.

does that mean Chis should vanish as a breed?
not in the least - it means that i wish that Chi-OWNERS would make an effort, train their dogs, socialize their dogs,
STOP carrying em + picking em up every time something over 10# weight gets near them, and treat them like the dogs they are.
or could be...

-Rant-
stop making excuses and allowing behaviors that would get a Rott or AmBull or even a Boxer killed,
just because their dog is 'too small to do damage'. bites hurt, %$#*! -- just because they cannot easily
rip gobbets of flesh out of yer limbs, does not mean it doesn't count.

all better, now off my soapbox, with the addendum that owners of other under-20# dogs should do the same -
train, socialize, habituate, and don't ignore or allow behaviors unacceptable in big-dogs; if a 90# dog should not do it,
odds are excellent that a 9# one shouldn't, either.

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Re: pitbulls save Chi from coyote?

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Because the pit is only too well aware of the fallacy of judging a book by its cover and takes each chi as an individual.
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I think some people like chi's some people like rotties and some people like both. Chi's are full of spunk and personality like many other breeds. I see nothing wrong with owning a chi or a pitbull as long as they are raised well and taken care off. ...Good on the Pitbulls for saving the little guy and good on the owner for making sure everyone knows the pit bulls saved her dog. It would have made the news even if it were a collie that saved it, but it is nice to see positive things written about the pit
Nicely put, I agree with you both.
I don't really like generalising about breeds because I think so much lies in how the dogs are socialised, trained and cared for, plus personal variables.
True breed characteristic always need to be considered and accounted for as a dog owner but I still prefer to look at each dog as an individual, especially when it comes to negative generalisations about breeds.
Nice to see a positive story about pitties though- especially with all of the stigma and rubbish that the media will have you believe just to sell stories.

Great article
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