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I don't like the he trains dogs, I think he is cruel, it always seems like a quick fix. I think time and rewards can work wonders.

I would never let that man anywhere near a dog of mine.

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IMO the dogs he trains arnt your average dog, and other methods have been tried and failed. It could be said that some of the dogs look a bit fearful but in the wild, juvenille wolves are fearful of higher ranking wolves. Whatever people opinions I dont think it can be denied he has an amazing concept of dog psychology.

It can, because dogs are not wolves... the idea that they behave the same as wolves was based on faulty research many years ago. Thankfully we know more nowadays but it's taking a long time to filter through.

I'd rather my dog - or any other dog for that matter - was never frightened of me for ANY reason especially not in the name of 'training'.

CM shows a blinding disregard for dog body language. The more you learn for yourself, the more is obvious.

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His methods are old time however he stops dogs from being put to sleep. I dont think he is cruel, some of the dogs he trains are vicious to other dogs and humans and he manages to turn that around.

However I do think there are more effective ways of training. The whole wolves/dogs isnt completely correct as wolves behave somewhat different to dogs.

But that all said hes one handsome guy.

Thats what I was trying to say. I dont think someone would use that method to train a puppy, but the dogs on the show have already picked up bad habits and most of the owners are clueless how to bring up a dog or have taken on a dog without research. There was one the other day with a lady who bought a boxer but hadnt taken it for a walk in 6 months If your training a puppy or training a dog a new trick/behaviour am not going to argue that reward training is the way forward. Worked wonders with our 6 year old beardie and our pup

I agree with you. I think hes great with difficult dogs look at all the dogs he has and they love him but respect him at the same time

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thats a good point how many dogs are in that pack he has? must be 50, all different shapes and sizes but they all know that CM is their leader and he will look after them so they dont have that anxiety? I also read that if you have a dog that pulls on the lead then he is more dominant and is pulling, A) to get were he wants but B) because he feels he is responsible for you so needs to be ahead and make sure there is no danger ahead and they have all the anxiety this brings. Wereas a dog that plods along behind you knows you his leader and will protect him so he doesnt have to worry about that and can go about doing what a dog does. Now I am no expert but our beardie knows who is in charge and has always plodded happily along behind us. My point being that reinforcing yourself as the "packleader" can only be a healthy thing for your dog

My dog plods behind and besides me too My bitch on the other hand tries to run 90 to the dozen while I'm walking. I have always said if ceasar or victoria came to my house they'd be taken out in a straight jacket I would love him to come and work with my dogs

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But the point is that those methods are not necessary. If you like the cruel methods fine, but dont justify it by saying no other methods would have worked, as that is simply not true...#

As merlins mum says, the more you actually know about dog psychology, body language and how they learn, the more you realise that CMs methods are just not necessary...

Also I must just add that there are LOADS of dogs on his shows where the owners are just stupid and the dogs are no way 'last chance' dogs...they might just be aggressive about nail clipping or similar...so the old argument that they would have been put down otherwise doesnt stand with them at all...

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