Why did you buy a Non KC dog - Page 12

sallyanne · #**111** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by krrbl123

Before we got out staff, we went to resue places looking for dogs even battersea but we was not alloud to have any because our kid were young, we could only have a old dog, we did not think it was fair for the kids to fall in love with a old dog when it was not gonna last that long. That why we got one off our friend. if i did not buy her someone else would of and missed treated her, so im very happy i found her.

How do you know someone else would have mistreated her?

SBT Rescue/Welfare consider indivual circumstances rather than blanket polices.
Our first SBT came from SBT Rescue,because of a marriage breakdown and the owner was moving into a flat.He was 8 years old and a lovely old gent,a bit grey around his muzzle but had a super temprement and was lovely.He was with us for a few years until he left for the bridge.

gillieworm · #**112** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Debbie

non KC pup you are more likely to be at the vets - than if you had got a well bred KC dog.

Both my 2 are KC registered but unfortunately my eldest is always at the vets, so registration doesn't guarantee good health.

Still if I was buying a pup I would still go for a registered litter over a non-registered, one of those things I can't really explain, wheras my other half doesn't care so long as they are the breed we want.

Having said that we have had rescues and intend on getting more rescues in the future which never come with papers even if pedigree for obvious reasons.....

sallyanne · #**113** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gillieworm

Both my 2 are KC registered but unfortunately my eldest is always at the vets, so registration doesn't guarantee good health.

Still if I was buying a pup I would still go for a registered litter over a non-registered, one of those things I can't really explain, wheras my other half doesn't care so long as they are the breed we want.

Having said that we have had rescues and intend on getting more rescues in the future which never come with papers even if pedigree for obvious reasons.....

No it doesn't guarentee anything but I think was Debbie was trying to get accross was the hereditary diseases that can and should be tested for,so you know your puppy will be free from these and hopefully live a long, happy, healthy life without the conditions developing.

The KC also has a Health foundation fund,
Kennel Club Health Foundation Fund - The Kennel Club
Kennel Club Health Foundation Fund
26-May-06

Funds to develop new DNA tests for inherited conditions

This Fund is part of The Kennel Club Charitable Trust
It is designed to help Breed Clubs and scientists work together to develop research programmes that will result in new DNA tests for inherited conditions
The Fund will supplement money raised by Breed Clubs and Councils towards the cost of research.
Applications for funding will be assess by an independent panel and decisions will be based solely on scientific merit and the likelihood of a successful outcome.
Breed Clubs that are numerically small and have limited capacity to raise their own research funds will have equal access to future DNA research that will benefit their breed.

Another step in the right direction.

Debbie · #**114** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sallyanne

No it doesn't guarentee anything but I think was Debbie was trying to get accross was the hereditary diseases that can and should be tested for,so you know your puppy will be free from these and hopefully live a long, happy, healthy life without the conditions developing.

The KC also has a Health foundation fund,
Kennel Club Health Foundation Fund - The Kennel Club
Kennel Club Health Foundation Fund
26-May-06

Funds to develop new DNA tests for inherited conditions

This Fund is part of The Kennel Club Charitable Trust
It is designed to help Breed Clubs and scientists work together to develop research programmes that will result in new DNA tests for inherited conditions
The Fund will supplement money raised by Breed Clubs and Councils towards the cost of research.
Applications for funding will be assess by an independent panel and decisions will be based solely on scientific merit and the likelihood of a successful outcome.
Breed Clubs that are numerically small and have limited capacity to raise their own research funds will have equal access to future DNA research that will benefit their breed.

Another step in the right direction.

Cheers Sall - I thought I got that across - but thats what I meant

Emphasis on the WELL BRED part of my earlier post

gillieworm · #**115** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sallyanne

No it doesn't guarentee anything but I think was Debbie was trying to get accross was the hereditary diseases that can and should be tested for,so you know your puppy will be free from these and hopefully live a long, happy, healthy life without the conditions developing.

Hi, I wasn't being thick

I do know exactly what Debbie's point was, and one that I wholly agree with.

My boy came from health tested parents and passed all of his own health tests before we picked him up (I have all the paperwork and graphs to proove he's a healthy specimin

) but as he's grown to be an adult he has started to suffer from allergies which affect his skin and coat which cost us a fortune to keep under control. He only has to roll in grass for 2 minutes and break out in hives and if he gets stung or bitten by insects he suffers from severe allergic reactions (we hate summer in our house lol).

So really the point I was trying to make is that all may look hunky dory from parentage and tests as pups but it doesn't guarantee anything thats all, but I agree that registered do give you a better idea. I know in my case I'm not talking about hereditary problems, because touch wood he is OK on that score!

JANICE199 · #**116** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 12:46 PM

well i've just looked on the kc site and i see you can reg.crossbreed pups on there.under "companion dog club"....thats news to me

carol · #**117** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JANICE199

well i've just looked on the kc site and i see you can reg.crossbreed pups on there.under "companion dog club"....thats news to me

they have been doing that for years, although litma has pedigree papers i joined him to the companion dog club, all you get is a number so you can go in to special companion dog club classes and a news letter.
its not a pedigree thing.

JANICE199 · #**118** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by carol

they have been doing that for years, although litma has pedigree papers i joined him to the companion dog club, all you get is a number so you can go in to special companion dog club classes and a news letter.
its not a pedigree thing.

but is'nt that going against what people are saying on here ie crossbreeding?
if crossbreeding is so bad why would the kc have anything to do with it?

Debbie · #**119** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JANICE199

but is'nt that going against what people are saying on here ie crossbreeding?
if crossbreeding is so bad why would the kc have anything to do with it?

Simply put - Money - they get more revenue that way - none of us are saying the KC is the be all and end all

JANICE199 · #**120** (**permalink**) 24-07-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Debbie

Simply put - Money - they get more revenue that way - none of us are saying the KC is the be all and end all

lol now i'm getting my teeth into this...so basicly we "could" say sod the kc...but just find a good breeder,one that has the tests and other things done?

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