hi, i,m just wondering if anyone can help me,i'm looking to put my dog out to stud but don't know how to go about it.
he is a 5yr old old english sheep dog,he has been hip scored (14) and is a lovely dog with a great nature,especially good with kids as i have 1yr old baby which he dots on.

thanks pete

hi, have you got any pictures of him, would love to see him,

hi and welcome you can ask the breeder of your dog and let it be know you want to breed him with others in your breed
has he not been proven?

Hi Carol
im afraid you will find it very difficult for a few reasons!
if he has never been usee before, 5 is very late to be starting!
if he has not been shown with a modicum of sucess then the sort of people you would attract would probably be the "wrong" sort..............most importantly is that you realise that your obligation doesnt end with the mating itself, you are equaly as responsible for the ensuing puppies as the owner of the bitch is.....that is to say that you would have to be prepared to take on or re home any puppies that might find their way back to the "breeder" for any reason.....well done for having the hip scores done, is he KC registered? that could be another stumbling block if not, but consider this...........why should a bitch come to an unknown, unshown, un proven dog when there are hundreds out there that are all of those things?
sorry it sounds such a negitive reply but breeding takes years of experience......and yes i know we all have to start somewhere but get the things and priorities in the right order before you consider going a head.
believe me...........if something goes wrong with the pups its more likely your door they will come knocking on!
Pauline

hi pkb1
i wont find it difficult as im not the one with the dog pet216 is the one
and as ive been breeding for years i know
just telling the person to get onto her breeder of her dog?

I find it a little narrow minded that you feel that people who breed dogs who have not taken part in the breed ring are the "wrong" sort. There are thousands of breeders, who are breeding, healthy, beautiful temperamented dogs from parents who have never been in the breed ring.
I do however agree with Pauline to consider this carefully, ensuring there is a demand for OES. There is no advantage to you in using him, did you want a pup yourself ?

i dont think its narrow minded of PKB1 at all.
these "wrong" people are what ive heard refered to many a time as back yard breeders.
yes there are 1000s of people who are breeding stunning dogs that have not been in a show ring. they have probably never had any health tests done either.
there is also the fact that rescues are over run with unwanted dogs and pups.
i spent months looking for my pup and trawled through 1000s of adverts to find him because i didnt want to buy one who came from unproved, untested parents with numerous problems. then have to go back to the breeder cause the pup has problems or worse.
im not saying this is the case with every pup but it is with a lot of them.
i have a kc reg british bull and a kc reg staffie. i also have staffie/bull terrier rescue whose dad was kc reg and whose mum was a bull terrier cross. i can say now my cross breed has had loads of problems health wise. but my 2 males have only been to the vets for flea treatment and boosters.
sorry if im ranting on and i dont mean to offend but breeding is never to be taken lightly.
good luck.

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georges mummy

I'm talking about the people who breed pedigree KC registered dogs who have had all the relevant health tests done prior to breeding, they are good breeders breeding from sound parents with good health and temperaments. Again I agree breeding should never be taken lightly, and there are people breeding poor specimens, in all walks of life. I am saying there are lots of people breeding excellent dogs, whose parents have never been in a breed ring. They do know what they are doing, they socialise and habituate the litter well and produce excellent family companions, which at the end of the day is what most people are looking for.

Breeding should be done to better a breed not simply to breed pups, so if the breeder is not involved with showing (which is the venue to assess the quality of their breeding stock against the standard and that of other breeders), or are involved with proving their dogs in the working arena where appropriate, why are they breeding?

You cannot have reputable breeder that is not involved in their breed beyond producing puppies.

In order to produce pups that meet the breed standard they need to evaluate their own and others breeding stock, that is what shows are primarily for. Otherwise they would have to drive up and down the country visiting breeders and stud owners to compare the dogs, and how would they find them in the first place if the owners were not members of breed societies.

Unfortunately it isn't enough to be healthy, for breeding a dog must have a temperament beyond reproach and typical for the breed and should be a good to outstanding example of it's breed based on the breed standard. It is very easy for an owner to think all their geese are swans, showing and working their dogs gives them a perspective and comparison.

There are more than enough pups left over from well bred litters for someone who wants a pedigree dog. For those who are not bothered about the looks and willing to take a chance on health and temperament there are plenty of dogs in rescue centres (where you won't be lining the pockets of poor breeders and puppy farmers), and at least their likely health issues are already apparent unlike a poorly bred pup.

I know many people in rescue, and the dogs ending up there are those who have breeders who don't give a damn, else they would not be in rescue but being privately re-homed through their breeder (yes the odd breeder will have died or become too frail to take dogs back, especially years later, but this is rare).

A well bred pup who could be taken into the ring or field and win makes just as god a companion as the poor specimen from a pet bred litter. the breeder has invested as much and more time in rearing it as well as choosing it's parentage.

The buyer has the advantage of knowing the very best possible has been done to produce a typical specimen of it's breed with the least chance of health issues, the other kind of puppy producers produce good pets by sheer luck, even if the litter is reared well.

If your paying for a pedigree pup shouldn't you expect teh whole package, and not a Skoda when you want a BMW.

hi brainless
you got beauitful dogs there
just llike my friends loki who stays with me

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