There we go was starting to think I was dreaming stuff again - Yes it can be tattooed or chipped.

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so still not sure where to post messages , but i have 11 month british bulldog i would
like to put to stud , not sure how old he has to be and dose he need medical, thanks

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Hi,
Welcome to the forum! Have you tried contacting your local breed club? I think we have a few bulldog people here, but it may be easier and faster calling the British bulldog club than trying to track them down (I can't remember their usernames). They will likely recommend you do a few health tests on him.
Let us know how you get on!

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Hi I have a 12 month old male St Bernard who is kc reg and a a really good example of the breed I am in two mind's to stud him or not I was told that of I was to stud him he mite not be such a good family pet I have young children so that's the most important thing if anyone has any advice it will really help thanks Jem

You should seek advice by starting your own thread, it may get noticed more quickly.

However in what way is he a good example of the breed? Visually? Or has he had all the health tests suggested for the breed?

12 months does seem young as well.

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I wouldn't! For one it will cost a fortune for all the health tests, don't know what "bernies" have but would have thought hip scoring was just one they need and two he is too young anyway so if he does have any problems they may not have shown yet. To me he is just a baby and still maturing and if anything goes wrong with the mating due to his inexperience, especially during the tie, he could haemorrhage at the penis.

Not worth it and it could make him a handful around the ladies in the future or even a scent marker in your house.

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i wouldn't bother tbo . what he hasn't had he won't miss. There are a couple of large kennels who have some great dogs yours would have to be something special to be used over theirs imo.love him for what he is a lovely pet.

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Do you show him? if you don't. and he is your first St Bernard, how do you know he is a really good example of the breed? even puppies that are I've seen go off the boil by the time they are 12/18 months - at 12 months for such a large breed he will still be very immature.

Are you aware what health-tests are required for the breed?

Do you have anyone who could act as a mentor?

Does his KC registration have endorsements on it, and if so, do you know what you have to do to get them lifted?

Would you be able to advise novice bitch owners on everything from caring for a pregnant bitch through to whelping and beyond?

Are you willing to get intimate with your boy and his bodily fluids, not to mention getting very intimate with visiting ladies?

I've whelped a number of litters and have assisted in more than a few matings - but I've twice failed to bring my own (fully health tested) dog and bitch together - even though he knows exactly what to do and she was literally "gagging" for it.

The first time, I was rushed into hospital, the second time, my partner had just had surgery - by the time I got to speak to people about helping me - it was too late - and I've got Labs -considerably smaller and probably less than half the weight of a St Bernard.

Would you be willing to guide bitch owners through the health tests, or even, as I did recently, collect a bitch from someone I knew vaguely and take her to an eye testing clinic.

How well do you know your breed pedigrees - would you know what would and wouldn't be a good match for your boy on paper - but similarly, would you be able to know enough about the breed conformation to accept type to type matings even when the pedigrees are outcrosses?

There's a lot to know when being a stud owner - the income might look potentially lucrative - but often the work you have to do and the commitment you have to make to bitch owners can suddenly 'shrink' making it not such an appealing hourly rate. I've know of matings which have taken 4 hours plus to happen - exhausting for everyone.

Would you be willing for people you don't know to turn up on your doorstep late at night on a bank holiday / christmas eve / christmas day even with just a couple of hours notice?

TBH IME change of temperament and issues around in-season bitches haven't come into the equation at all - but the level of knowledge you need for your breed, a considerable amount of strength and willingness to get very intimate with your boy and his "lady friends" would be critical to his success as a stud dog.

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definitely agree on all counts, Bags.

Jem, we all love our dog[s] but making more-dogs means breeding not merely to equal
their parents' qulaity, but much-more, hopefully improve upon the parental models -
the progeny should ideally have fewer of each parent's flaws, & more of each parent's virtues,
if U see what i mean? And let's face it, clearly seeing the faults on our own much-loved dogs is similar
to seeing the faults in our child, or perhaps the faults of our sweetheart in those first heady days
of euphoria as we fall in love - we're not objective or logical, we're caught up in our own emotions
& that makes us biased - our critiques are more like paeans of praise,


neither Saints nor any other dog should be bred before 2-YO - as over-85% of all heritable problems
which will affect that dog, show as symptoms by 24-mos age.

Saints have a number of breed-specific problems which should be tested or screened for, in relatives -
here's a list from this post:
Necessary health tests before breeding


27. Behavioral abnormalities:
a whole range of abnormal behavior patterns, such as aggression, panic disorders, etc;
obsessive compulsive disorders like “spinners” or tail-chasing & pica, are seen in the Bull Terrier.

31. Bloat:
a dog's stomach produces excessive gas & enlarges severely-enough to cause death without immediate treatment.
Bloat is usually associated with gastric torsion [EDIT: the stomach flips over, & twists either the esophagus
or the small-bowel, or both, closed in the process; lack of blood-circulation rapidly kills tissue].
(also see #131.)


38. Cardiomyopathy:
a disease of weakened heart muscles, associated with taurine deficiency in the Golden Retriever.
Also found in giant breeds, Boxers, American Cocker Spaniels &
Doberman Pinschers.


42. Cataract:
as in humans, a change in structure of the lens of the eye, leading to cloudiness & usually blindness.


59. Coloboma:
an abnormal development of the eye, usually seen in the Collie, which
can lead to blindness.
(See #58, 60, 203.)

60. Colobomas with aphakia:
same as #60, but with congenital absence of the lens.


72. Cutaneous asthenia:
the skin lacks normal strength, elasticity & sensation. Also called Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.
found in several breeds, including English Springer Spaniel &
Boxer (also see #94a.)


83. Dermoid cyst:
a small growth composed of skin-like structures.


94. Ectropion:
an abnormal rolling out of the eyelids. [EDIT: Any but mild cases need corrective surgery, as it's painful.]

94a. Ehlers-Danlos syndrome:
a connective tissue disease characterized by loose, hyperextensible & very fragile skin that tears easily.
(also see #72.)


103. Entropion:
an abnormal rolling in of the eyelid. [EDIT: ditto to #94]


109. Epilepsy:
a disease characterized by convulsions (seizures) &/or disturbances
of consciousness.


114. Eversion of nictitating membrane:
a condition in which the third-eyelid protrudes.


118. Factor I deficiency or hypofibrinogenemia:
a rare deficiency of a clotting factor (fibrinogen), which causes excessive bleeding.


121. Factor VIII deficiency or hemophilia A:
the most-common severe inherited clotting-disorder of humans & animals. The disorder is inherited
as a sex-linked recessive trait (carried by females, it manifests in males). Affects most dog breeds.


122. Factor IX deficiency or hemophilia B:
same as hemophilia A, but rarer & involves a different clotting factor.



128. [Skin-]Fold dermatitis:
an inflammation of skin folds, especially in dogs with loose skin (e-g, Chinese Shar-Pei).


131. Gastric torsion:
the stomach twists, impeding input & output. [EDIT: and blood-circulation, leading to gangrene.]
(also see #31.)


133. Genu valgum:
malformation of the knee joint ('knock-kneed').


140. Granulomatous sebaceous adenitis:
a disease of sebaceous (sweat) skin glands, characterized by reactive tissue growth & autoimmune destruction
of the sebaceous glands. Hair loss occurs; this poorly responds to treatment. Seen in the Standard Poodle,
Akita, Samoyed & Vizsla, among others. [EDIT: can be fatal, either directly or as complications -
affected dogs die young.]


147. Hemophilia A:
a blood clotting disorder due to deficiency of coagulation factor VIII (this is the most common
type of hemophilia in dogs). (also see #121.)
148. Hemophilia B:
a blood clotting disorder due to lack of coagulation factor IX. (also see #122.)


149. Hepatic portosystemic shunt or arteriovenous fistula:
a malformation of blood-vessels in the liver, or abnormal communication between arteries & veins
in the liver.


152. Hip dysplasia:
a developmental malformation or subluxation of the hip joints.


155. Hygroma:
a fluid-filled sac, which often develops on the elbows of large breeds, such as Danes or Irish Wolfhounds.


166. Hypothyroidism:
a common endocrine disease where the body produces an abnormally-low amount of thyroid hormones.
This is an autoimmune destruction of the thyroid gland which affects more than 50 dog breeds.
(also see #192, 312.)


188. Lip-fold dermatitis:
a skin infection caused by redundant skin folds around the mouth.


198. Metabolic bone disease:
any of a number of diseases affecting the bones due to an abnormality of metabolism.


221. Osteochondritis dissecans:
a specific form of inflammation of the cartilage of certain joints which causes arthritis. (also see #221a.)

221a. Osteochondrosis:
a group of developmental diseases resulting in abnormal formulation of joint cartilage.
Commonly involves the shoulder, stifle, hock or elbow. (also see #221.)


225. Osteosarcoma:
a cancer arising from the cells of the bones.


262. Pyometra:
a bacterial infection of the uterus, when it fills with pus.


273a. Sebaceous adenitis:
(See #140.)


298. Stockard's paralysis:
a degeneration of parts of the spinal cord, causing paralysis.


325. Vaginal hyperplasia:
an overgrowth of tissues of the vagina.


328. Vitiligo:
a lack of pigment in the skin (called vitiligo in humans, & hypopigmentation
in non-humans).
seen in the Rottweiler, Doberman Pinscher, Old English Sheepdog & Dachshund, among others.
(also see #161.)


329. Vogt-Koyanagi-Harada-like syndrome:
an autoimmune disease common in the Akita & the 'sled'-dog breeds, where the eyes, blood & other tissues
are progressively destroyed, leading to blindness & death; also called uveodermatologic syndrome.


330. von Willebrand's disease:
a bleeding disorder caused by defective blood-platelet function (an autosomal trait, affecting both sexes).
This occurs in over 59 dog breeds, but is most-often seen in the Doberman Pinscher.



so by age-2, along with an eye-certificate every 12-mos signed by a vet-opthalmologist,
a Penn-HIP or similar radiograph of hips, knees & elbows, blood-test for Brucella [a k9-STD],
& other basic tests and screens, he'd need a cardiac ultrasound by a k9-cardiologist,
5-way or possibly 6-way thyroid panel READ BY the Michigan State Univ vet-labs, vWD-test [ditto,
or by Jean Dodds DVM], liver & kidney enzymes via a COMPLETE blood-panel [a copy to be kept
on file as his record of 'normal' for future ref, if needed, should he become ill], full-depth skin punches
from at least 3 separate areas on his body [sent to a dermatologist for microscopy: Sebaceous adenitis
test], haemophilia tests for type A & B to see if he's affected, possibly a platelet test for ANA
[anti-nuclear antibodies], & whatever else might help eliminate possible heritable problems
in any potential progeny.

PLUS -
query the owners of any bitch-prospect for their results on the same tests,

AND ascertain if any of Ur male's relatives, or any bitch-prospect's relatives,
have ever suffered bloat / GDV, epilepsy, OCD behaviors [fly-snap, lick granulomae, tail-chase, etc],
& other heritable problems which have no vet-tests / DNA tests, yet.

Ensuring he meets the breed-standard in all respects AND has a solid temp [neither dog-aggro
nor dog-reactive; neither human-aggro nor human-reactive; well-socialized & habituated to human
environs, tolerant of other dogs & domestic species, not highly-predatory...] goes without saying.

fearful behaviors are extremely-heritable, so shy or easily-startled dogs are not breeding prospects.

aggression is likewise extremely-heritable, & sadly Saints have suffered from an increase
in both dog-aggro and human-aggro specimens, due to 3 separate popn-booms & irresponsible
breeders - from the 1970s, 1980s, & again in the 1990s. Very sad - & very, very dangerous.
a Saint who aggresses can easily kill someone - human or k9. Take it seriously, please.

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