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*wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.*
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thats not good...

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*wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.*
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Thats interesting but terrifying at the same time

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(Please Click on The Above Link If You are Thinking Of Breeding From Your Dog)

Dr. Koharik Arman passed this article by the Cangen yahoo list, which she is on, a couple of years ago.

I cheered that this was published in a veterinary journal.

"The alarming reality is that “unrelated” purebreds today are actually genetically related to a greater extent than individuals that are truly related."

I thought this was fairly common knowledge amongst the dog breeding community?

CC

bump..............

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terry pride, APDT-Aus, apdt#1827, CVA, TDF
*wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.*
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Thought I'd add this link to Jeffrey Bragg's "17 Points to consider when breeding"

WebCanine.com » Blog Archive » 17 Points to consider when breeding

CC

Great paper!
i wonder how many breeders will read it, understand it and apply the few commonsensical principles that can be deduced from it...
probably Dr Koharik Arman...will be pointed at as a cross-breed lover that don;t understand the dog show world and understand even less "proper" pure breed breeding practices...in show winning kennels!



thanks from bringing that to my attention

best
D

great article, CC! very cogent, very applicable -

i think breeders often don;t read genetics-articles (except about breeding for color... ) thinking that they;re confusing,
dry, pointless + have no bearing in the real world. thats part of how dogs got here, sadly -

to this critical juncture, where so many breeds formerly-rich genetic trees are reduced to mere twigs, with but few branches.
its scary and sad - i am deeply concerned that some breeds may die-out, NOT because they are relatively-unknown -
like PudelHunden or BlackMouth-Cur --- but like the Bernese Mt-Dog, they are so related they are all virtual-siblings.

USA-Berners had a terrible fertility-slump in the late 1980s + early-90s; some bitches had litters of just 2 or 3,
a phenom related to their intense C-o-I called reproductive depression. i sure hope things have improved;
i have not spoken to a breeder about it since about 1995.

i would hate to see dog-breeds die out because we literally loved them to death - popularized them
+ thoughtlessly used the stud-del-Dia to cover every estrus-female whose owner could cough-up the $$.

hoping more breeders read + heed, (but worried),
--- terry

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terry pride, APDT-Aus, apdt#1827, CVA, TDF
*wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.*
tmp, sept-2007