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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

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What makes you think other people with crossbreeds have gone to unethical breeders ?
what makes them think all xbreeding is unethical??? there are purebreeds in rescues to,and puppy farms churning out kc reg pedigrees as well as xbreeds
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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

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what makes them think all xbreeding is unethical??? there are purebreeds in rescues to,and puppy farms churning out kc reg pedigrees as well as xbreeds
I know its very sad all round.
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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

I have to say that BYB and puppy mills Do Not only deal with x breed they do alot of purebreeds also. Whatever type of dog you get cross or pure you need to feel comfortable where you get it from always visit and watch the interaction between owner and adult dogs. Certain health tests are important and if you have the net you can find out what tests are important for each breed....Jill
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I have to say that BYB and puppy mills Do Not only deal with x breed they do alot of purebreeds also. Whatever type of dog you get cross or pure you need to feel comfortable where you get it from always visit and watch the interaction between owner and adult dogs. Certain health tests are important and if you have the net you can find out what tests are important for each breed....Jill
excellent post,its a shame that some individuals are so blinkered to the reality
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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

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im sorry but thats a rubbish statement to make!! just because they are xbreeds doesn mean its a unethical breeding.Many so called registered purebreed breeders are crap and anything but ethical.There are as many puppy farms breeding kc reg dogs as any crossbreed breeders.
I have`nt said there are no unethical breeders of purebreds, there certainly are, they are every bit as bad as all crossbreed breeders. There is no reason to breed crosses, they are a money making resource, nothing more. Health testing is even claimed for crosses as making the breeder `ethical` however tests for one breed do not correspond to the other, there are many well known crosses which now have hereditary diseases of their own because of the mixes, and skeletal issues because of dogs of unmatched skeletal build - like one of mine has, she is of a crossing deliberately churned out as a designer type...

So no it`s not a rubbish statement to make, the only people imo who should be breeding are those who breed same to same, [ as it`s the only way to have any chance of knowing what size and traits are likely ], are careful about the lines involved, fully health test for all known hereditary testable conditions, sell with contracts, and take responsibility for the life time of the pups they have bred should any of them need help including rehoming at any time.
Anyone doing any less - yes including those breeding purebreds - are unethical.
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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

The trouble with this scenario (sp) though, is that no matter how many times its "Debated", It will still be there.

If there were laws bought in to police breeders of designer dogs, how would they be monitored? and if that was so, it would make crossbreeds even more desirable to have on the black market! Because if people think they cant get or have them, they want them even more.............
But again the same rules apply to pedigree breeders, theres good and bad on every side, it is the ying and yang way............
So unfortunately its a no win situation for all involved really, and i personally have nothing against either pedigrees or cross breeds
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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

I'd rep you Patch for post 11 but dont know how to D

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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

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What makes you think other people with crossbreeds have gone to unethical breeders ?
IMO all breeders of commercial crossbreeds are unethical, ergo anyone buying directly from them has bought from an unethical breeder every bit as much as anyone buying from a purebred breeder who does`nt do everything properly has bought from an equally unethical breeder.
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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

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The trouble with this scenario (sp) though, is that no matter how many times its "Debated", It will still be there.

If there were laws bought in to police breeders of designer dogs, how would they be monitored? and if that was so, it would make crossbreeds even more desirable to have on the black market! Because if people think they cant get or have them, they want them even more.............
But again the same rules apply to pedigree breeders, theres good and bad on every side, it is the ying and yang way............
So unfortunately its a no win situation for all involved really, and i personally have nothing against either pedigrees or cross breeds
no - having all dogs - chipped etc and all breeders lisenced - dog lisences etc... in do believe there are ways round it...

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I'd rep you Patch for post 11 but dont know how to D

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see the kinda weigh scales near the report button??? press that - and you can do it like that

im also going to rep you patch
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Re: Does anyone breed Chorkies?

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no - having all dogs - chipped etc and all breeders lisenced - dog lisences etc... in do believe there are ways round it...




see the kinda weigh scales near the report button??? press that - and you can do it like that

im also going to rep you patch
many puppy farmers do hold licenses,and i cant see what difference a chip will make?
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