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Re: Why against cross breeds?

I don't like it because my breed seems to get crossed with anything that can move
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Re: Why against cross breeds?

I'm not against crossbreeds I have 3 but its the random throwing together of two completely different breeds, thats in some cases almost guaranteed to cause health or temperment problems, then giving them some stupid name so they can make more money I don't like. As long as they breed responsibly heealth test, have two compatible breeds etc then I don't mind as long as they don't put some stupid name on it and sell it for £1000 to people who just want the newest strange mix.
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Re: Why against cross breeds?

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I have no issue with dogs being bred with a purpose in mind and agree that traits/temperment are important but everything (as you say is a choice). Different people make different choices and the same goes with breeding. Some are happy with the breeds that the KC supports others are not.
sadly the purpose of a lot of dogs being bred is money which i dont count this personally as a good choice... but then choices, heh... different people make different choices but still i wouldnt consider them all as good
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a breed standard includes temperament as well, so ur wrong there ...
Okay, a breed standard is a long list of physical attributes and a brief mention of temperament.
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But only because we want them to... we don't need to hunt, use dogs to search for drugs etc... we choose to.
Using that logic being a companion isn't a purpose either then.
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certainly not true in my breed or a lot of other breeds.
I thought the comparison was between pedigrees and crosses, not specific breeds and all crosses?

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Poor SBT rescue is over run with dogs that vaguely look like SBT's. who bred them?? ethical breeders ? doubt it.
I doubt there's any ethically bred crossbreeds in rescue either, it's exactly the same.
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Okay, a breed standard is a long list of physical attributes and a brief mention of temperament.
maybe brief but very important part of the breed standard...
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Neither do I but aren't you contradicting your first point there?

A breed standard is just a list of physical attributes, i.e. looks.


Responsible breeders wouldn't breed willy nilly within the same breed either. So where's the difference between pedigrees and crosses?

Is it not possible to draw a line between crosses bred ethically and "designer dogs"?
The Op started the thread as why against cross breeds and i gave my reasons.

As re the breed standard it may be "just" a list but it is the blu print of each breed and responsible ethical breeders would aim through years of research to breed their dogs to this standard combined with excellant health test result.

I just cannot see the justification of putting 2 different breeds together to produce an unknown type of pup, add a ridiculous name and sell for a ludicrous amount of money to the Joe Public who are being mislead into thinking they have a "new" breed.

Ok...maybe I am not coming across very clear...

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Health tested Chi bitch
Pet owner wants to mate her.
Does she put her too health tested Chi Stud or too Health tested Pug stud?

Surely to a Chi stud. Why on earth would she want to mate to a pug and spoil two beautiful breeds?


But we are seing this far too often and why??? As I said I just do not get it?

BUT I can see the other side of the coin where some breeds are being deliberatly crossed by health tested parents to produce pups that it has been proven to improve their field of work.

This may sound contradicting but I can see why this is done
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Using that logic being a companion isn't a purpose either then.
I didn't actually say it was... it is a reason for breeding that is simply a human wish. Exactly the same as every other reason for breeding - I don't think it is a bad reason or an "unethical" reason.

I would consider unethical reasons (for breeding) to be, inter alia, for fighting, to make money (solely), to conform to a breed standard where that standard is shown to be be unhealthy.

I wouldn't agree that breed standards are necessarily (or in some case at all) anything to do with health and in some cases, the exact opposite.
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Re: Why against cross breeds?

but even though people look for dogs as companionship even that varies....

there are the active owners who loves the outdoors...

there are the more quiet owners who rather have short walk....

there are the owners who love certain activities etc.....

there are owners who need an easy going dog and those who rather have an challenging dog...

Those sort of lifestyles require certain temperamant traits....

So how can someone without a breed standard say my cross will suit this and this lifestyle???? or doesnt it matter for the crossbreeders who breed for companionship and just place pups into homes hoping the new owners will fit their dogs temperamant rather then their looks and if not then what then???
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