Totally agree. But the problem is that when new members join and so much as hint about breeding, people jump down their throat, they leave, the thread gets locked and no one benefits.

After the BBC program (and before to a lesser extent) many people think pure bred kc reg dogs are unhealthy and cross breeds are not.

Doesn't matter if it's true or not, if that's what the majority think, then it's fact.

No arguuement...just a view and opinion.

Discussions from both sides are healthy

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I don't have anything against cross breeds. My first dog is a gorgeous boxer x labrador. 18 years old and still going strong!! His parents were both KC reg health tested show dogs. But unknown to their owners(neighbours) they had got to each other. The pups were handed to the RSPCA and we rescued one.

But when they are just bred for money and no health tests are done I don't agree with it. Whether they are pure bred KC reg Crufts champions or Mr Jones from number 32's Toy poodle and Mrs Smith from number 47's Jack Russell.

If you health test and make sure you have 2 dogs with good temperments then go ahead. Also try and have a list of potential owners.

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I do feel that some people that cross breed feel that its a excuse not to get health tests done, not have to pay out for a quality kc registered dog with no endorsements, not needing to register the resulting pups and do it to make money as some charge as much as a pedigree and sometimes more.

Lets face it to buy a KC unendorsed dog from a reputable breeder for breeding and then to have to pay for health test etc.. Cost alot of money and I feel that cross breeding is an excuse to not have to go to that expense and make money.

On the other hand there is some beautiful cross breeds that have given people with fur alleges a wider choice of dogs to love and have in there lives and if the breeder has both parents health tested then why not, but again I think this has got out of hand and now any cross matting seems to go and any tom dick and harry is having ago.

I don't think that people on here have a problem with cross breeds, I certainly haven't and have had them in the past, I think the problem we have is that the vast majority of cross breeds come from people that have no idea about what there doing and just do it to make money, so the issue lies with the people not the dogs.

Lately the ONLY case of responsible crossbreeding i have come across is that of the dallies who have had pointer bred into them to remove the health problem that dallies suffer which forms stones in their bladders.

NOW THAT IS ETHICAL AND RESPONSIBLE CROSSBREEDING!

I can also see some argument for the working breeds and types however i have no experience in that field to be able to justify why a mix would better suit a particular job over another pedigree counterpart.

I see no point in me posting again about what i feel makes a responsible breeder... go back and read it...

But as specifically for mongrels (above and beyond the temperament/type/health tests/motivation/rearing etc) the biggest thing that galls me is the price!

Why are dogs of mixed parentage sold (in some cases) for hundreds of pounds more than their pedigree counterparts?

Now I have a mongrel, Billy and I have a pedigree rescue, Miso... I love them both the same, but I wouldnt pay hundreds of pounds to purchase a mutt. It doesnt mean i value billy any less now. I would walk over hot coals for him and bancrupt myself if needed, BUT i wouldnt buy a mutt puppy for the amounts some people charge.

edit: Billy is a Yorkie and Scottie mix. He is also Tiny, and under hands of an unethical breeder could have been sold for hundreds of pounds, and probably classed as the fictional "teacup". Ive had many offers to breed him, because people see pound signs! - his furry plums are coming off!

By the way... yes ive called crossbreeds mongrels. According to the colins dictionary a Mongrell is a dog of mixed parentage, A crossbreed is a hybrid, the only dog hybrids i know of are the wolfdog types. Therefore in my eyes all mixed breeds of dogs, whether from known or unknown parentage are mongrels.

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I have nothing against cross breeds exactl. I mean i owned a x dachshund years and years and years back. But i wouldn't own one again - for one reason only - and that's health problems.

Otherwise i have nothiing against cross breeds.

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I love dogs. Cross breed or purebred it doesn't matter to me.

There will always be those who see two completely different breed of dog and put them together thinking up a 'cool' name and selling them on for profit. I'm hoping this trend dies out soon but I doubt it.

Then you have those who are health testing their dogs before they breed them - no problems there.

And then there are the accidental litters. Your average dog owner will not know everything we know - they probably wouldn't want to go too far to find it either. They have 3 options when the pups come into the world. Give them to a rescue, pass them on for free or sell them. I wonder which one they'd pick.

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Someone stated that mongrels are the way to go because they are more desireable? guess someone didnt tell the 300+ at the rescue I work at. at least with a kc pedigree dog, even if the breeder is not an ethical one and refuses to take back any of their breeding if problems arise, there will be a breed rescue to assist, mongrels dont have that safety net, they have to go into general rescues that take all types of dogs, these places tend to have greater numbers, and so the poor mongrel that someone thought was a great idea to produce is stuck in kennels a hell of a lot longer.

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I am a new dog owner and dont really know enough to have an opinion...
However i do have a wondering/question...

Assuming all health checks are done etc (which seems sensible and obvious)
when you mix 2 breeds together how do you know what you are going to get?

Meaning it could be 10% one breed and 90% the other, vise versa or anything in between.

Applying the above, what happens if you for example cross a dog that likes lots of exercise with a dog that has a short snout (say a pug) that is not up for lots and lots of exercise and running about?

Could you not get a dog that is physically not able to run about (90% short snout) but has the desire to go for hours (10% high energy dog) and could this be bad for that dog?

I dont want to start any rows about anything, like i said i am a dog novice and have been wondering.

(OP........ hope this isnt seen as a thread hi-jack but reading your thread got me thinking about cross breeds )

PS I love all dogs