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Re: Why against cross breeds?

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I'll not rise to this if you don't mind. If the intention was to solicit sympathy from me then your opening aggressive post (to my legtimate question) wasn't exactly the way to do it. I'm sure you do not want my sympathy and whilst I have genuine sympathy for your father, using him as a way to take a shot at me was a little uncalled for.

I'll put you on ignore then we can't ruin the thread... you may wish to do the same.
i dont see any aggression at all... where do u get that from?
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i dont see any aggression at all... where do u get that from?
BBM's opening post. I asked a question of another poster and "her" response was to put down the reasoning behind the question without justification.
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Re: Why against cross breeds?

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I'll not rise to this if you don't mind. If the intention was to solicit sympathy from me then your opening aggressive post (to my legtimate question) wasn't exactly the way to do it. I'm sure you do not want my sympathy and whilst I have genuine sympathy for your father, using him as a way to take a shot at me was a little uncalled for.

I'll put you on ignore then we can't ruin the thread... you may wish to do the same.
elmo

I couldnt be bothered to put you on ignore, your insensetive uncaring sarcastic and disrespectful attitude is of great amusement to me. You cannot intimidate me.

I care very deeply about ethical breeding, and like you i am not a breeder, although unlike you i have absoloutly no plans to enter into the breeding world either.

My post to you was a valid comment, you constantly mention that its down to a breeders choice about what types of dogs they produce, YET it seems its unacceptable for someone else to have a different opinion than you own?

Yes your comment was a valid.. as was mine!
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and where is the aggression ur on about exactly ..... ????
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oh please elmo

read back... its not my opening post on this thread!
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Re: Why against cross breeds?

The impression i get is that pedigree breeders have a problem with the motivation behind crossbreeding.

I often read the phrases "to better a breed" and " to keep a pup". With crossbreeding theres nothing to "improve" on, and i dont know the percentage of those who breed in order to keep a pup. So its assumed that its done for monetary gain. Rightly or wrongly, thats known only to the one doing the breeding.

I do think there is a sense of snobbery. I get sick of hearing "oh my dog has many champions in his pedigree". I find it sad that people think a dog needs a purpose, or have to be of a certain quality to be of any worth to them.
Some do look down on crossbreeds/mongrel as lesser dogs.

IMO, aslong as a crossbreeder takes all the steps that a pedigree breeder does, then i dont see a problem.

There are just as many crap pedigree breeders as there are cross breeders.
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The impression i get is that pedigree breeders have a problem with the motivation behind crossbreeding.

I often read the phrases "to better a breed" and " to keep a pup". With crossbreeding theres nothing to "improve" on, and i dont know the percentage of those who breed in order to keep a pup. So its assumed that its done for monetary gain. Rightly or wrongly, thats known only to the one doing the breeding.

I do think there is a sense of snobbery. I get sick of hearing "oh my dog has many champions in his pedigree". I find it sad that people think a dog needs a purpose, or have to be of a certain quality to be of any worth to them.
Some do look down on crossbreeds/mongrel as lesser dogs.

IMO, aslong as a crossbreeder takes all the steps that a pedigree breeder does, then i dont see a problem.

There are just as many crap pedigree breeders as there are cross breeders.
I agree with 99% of the post but I still question (on the basis of the argument about the amount of dogs in rescue) as to why KC registered breeders still breed. If the argument is to reduce the amount of dogs in rescue then should there be no breeding of crosses or KC registered?
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I agree with 99% of the post but I still question (on the basis of the argument about the amount of dogs in rescue) as to why KC registered breeders still breed. If the argument is to reduce the amount of dogs in rescue then should there be no breeding of crosses or KC registered?
As far as I understand it if we want to keep the breeds (or crosses) we love we have to keep breeding. If everyone stopped and there were only rescue dogs within a few years the rescues would be empty (great) but the dogs would be too old to be bred from.
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The impression i get is that pedigree breeders have a problem with the motivation behind crossbreeding.

I often read the phrases "to better a breed" and " to keep a pup". With crossbreeding theres nothing to "improve" on, and i dont know the percentage of those who breed in order to keep a pup. So its assumed that its done for monetary gain. Rightly or wrongly, thats known only to the one doing the breeding.

I do think there is a sense of snobbery. I get sick of hearing "oh my dog has many champions in his pedigree". I find it sad that people think a dog needs a purpose, or have to be of a certain quality to be of any worth to them.
Some do look down on crossbreeds/mongrel as lesser dogs.

IMO, aslong as a crossbreeder takes all the steps that a pedigree breeder does, then i dont see a problem.

There are just as many crap pedigree breeders as there are cross breeders.
I havent read anything about champions on this thread yet and i find mostly BYB bang on about champions in the dogs lines to be able to cash in more on the pups ....

All dogs are the same worthy as pets, but to maintain good health and good conformation its obvious that only healthy dogs without any major faults should be bred from.... and thats for pure bred or cross bred...

I dont think its bad people want to improve on certain things, its their aim .... there are things to improve as perfect dogs dont excist ....

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Re: Why against cross breeds?

But some of us love crosses, so should we also not be allowed to continue breeding?
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