As I can see what you are saying and yes it is irresponsible to let a bitch in season around a male dog.But it is a persons choice what dog they choose,be it pedigree,cross breed,designer what ever you wish to call them
its something we all can choose...A large % of so called cross breeds,designer dogs what ever you wish to call them are used as guide dogs...Labrador cross Golden Retrievers and I think they do a very good job don't you.....

Of Course it is everybodies choice and I agree,What I don't agree with is calling them designer dogs when they are crossbreeds.What I find even more distressing is the fact that the rescues are struggling,full to the rafters,yet we have Breeders breeding these dogs purely for fiancial gain,I wonder in 5 years time how many of these designer dogs will be dumped and putting ever increasing strain on rescues.With a cross breed like this and a possible litter on the way I would say they have more chance of having inheredited conditions,as both parents are crossbreeds and probably untested for known conditions within each breed.

The guide dogs do a fantastic job,but they are bred for a purpose,they are bred to do a job,unlike the breeders breeding designer dogs,dogs are animals and should be treated as such not a fashion accessory.

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I totaly agree wish you Sallyann ......breeders are cashing in by crossing two pedigree as they can fetch a lot more then a KC Reg dogs and I must admit I have seen them advertised and said what..that much for a cross breed.....and if people did not buy them they would not breed them...but in time to come the KC could recognize them as a new breed.....as I think every pedigree dog started as dif crosses..... unless I am wrong.....

Maybe but I am of the thinking that with 200 + breeds and rescues full do we really need to be creating another breed.
It would take decades to establish a breed type and what about pups that were bred and didn't fit the breed type,bearing in mind this could be an awful lot,what happens to those?

The Health issues in the Havanese are:
Eye problems including cataracts
Patellar Luxation ( The patella, or kneecap, is part of the stifle joint (knee). In patellar luxation, the kneecap luxates, or pops out of place )

Some of the health issues seen in the Bichon include,
Skin ailments
Cataracts
Epilepsy

Health issues in the pomeranian include,
Some of the Patellar Luxation ( The patella, or kneecap, is part of the stifle joint (knee). In patellar luxation, the kneecap luxates, or pops out of place )
Problems with the teeth
Entropion (the inversion, or turning inward, of the border of the eyelid against the eyeball)

Health Issues in the Maltese,
Patellar Luxation ( The patella, or kneecap, is part of the stifle joint (knee). In patellar luxation, the kneecap luxates, or pops out of place )

Entropion (the inversion, or turning inward, of the border of the eyelid against the eyeball)

So I wonder what the chances are of passing these conditions on to the pups very very high I would imagine as all four breeds all have some of the same problems.

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totally agree prices are outrageous.....and yes go back far enough and most pedigree dogs are crossed somewhere thats how we have so many dif breeds, i paid 500 for my northern inuit and she is basically a cross breed but she is exactly what i wanted , she has the look of a husky without the husky trates, and the obediance of the german sheppard she is a wonderful dog well both of them are

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But NI's have a breed society and a registration system in place,they also have a standard to breed to,If I'm not mistaken.They are in the future I think going to try and get the breed recognised by the KC.

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yes they are, i think if i rightly remember they just got turned down again as there are alot of breeders that are doing things wrong and the societys have split into 2 and are battleing between each other so they got told try again in 5 years, but i do agree, with some of this cross breeding lark they dont think about the dogs its just the cash....ie boxer x chinese crested....that sort of thing makes me mad, but as been said everyone is entitled to do weather right or wrong and it will always be a deep conversation

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Yes It will always be a heated/deep rooted discussion.And yes people will make there own choices,I just wish there were better regulations in place for the breeding,advertising and sale of dogs.I wish there was something in place to identify breeders so when one of there dogs go through rescue the appriopriate course of action could be taken,I.E Breeder refusing to take dog back,should be fined,banned from breeding,should be liable for all costs rescue incurr.There will always be exceptions,such as Breeder has moved,or is unable to take the dog back because of illness etc...but I think it should target those that churn out litter after litter with the resulting breeders dogs going through rescue on a regular basis.
Maybe more thought and consideration would then be given to people cashing in on breeding.

Interesting discussion though for a saturday morning

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Now that cross is bad....But I can beat that In our local paper sometime back
Wait for it...Rottweiler......Cross.......Yorkie...... It showed you a pup it looked like a rottweiler chunky same markings but.. very hairy.The owner said he did not think the male yorkie would reach.....!!!!!!

I have replied to your PM jchars

I will ask, why on earth did you pay $500 for a mongrel when there are thousands of mongrels in rescues all over the world? They will NEVER be seen as a breed, no two pups look the same, how can you set a standard for that? The breeds that are mated together, in their own right where developed for different needs and uses.

Breed standard of a bichon X maltese
Terrible white (most of the time) coats
Balance, err what is that?
Tail does what it pleases.
Legs no longer needed due to various carrying cases available
Health tests not needed (we think we know better )
Excellent money makers

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