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Just wondered if anyone can help with this....
Our lovely Biscuit had pups over Easter. The 'father' was a chance meeting! But we exchanged numbers with his owner and he was in regular contact whilst she was pregnant as he said he was entitled to a puppy! Now whilst I know this is the case in pedigrees or arranged breeding I have felt forced to agree - our Biscuit is a mixed breed! He came and chose one of the six pups (a boy) two days after the birth. Now, he wants to introduce his puppy to his other dogs so they get used to it! I am not happy with this at all. He is saying his dogs (he has three - two boys and a girl) would be in his car and he would just let them sniff his puppy. I am concerned about any potential infections and also if this is OK. He has not paid anything towards the vet bills so far and just seems to be in it for a free dog in another 5-6 weeks? What does anyone think?

Did you not agree on something before the dogs mated?????
with ref..to taking pup to meet his dogs in car,..I would not let him,he can do that when pups can leave mom.......

I'm not going to comment on the cross breeding aspect as everyone on this forum knows I have strong opinions on that.

A definate big NO NO to him bringing his other dogs to sniff the puppy,yes his other dogs can carry infection an pass it on,also mum to the litter might be aprehensive about letting strange dogs near her pups.They will have plenty of chance to get used to the pup when he takes it home.

He is not responsible for any cost while your bitch was pregnant nor for any while you have the pups,you usually paid a stud fee and are prepared for the costs of a bitch in whelp and raising the litter.

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As others have said, definitely a big NO to letting his dogs meet the pups. Re him having a puppy, that would depend upon what your arrangement with him was. He is not automatically entitled to a puppy, unless it was agreed between the two of you. I know you said it was a chance meeting, but what happened afterwards? Did you have a chat and agree any terms? Did you pay him a stud fee? Did you agree to let him have a puppy in lieu of a stud fee? Did he say that he would have a puppy instead of a stud fee? It sounds as though he has had his pick of the litter - did you agree to that?

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Do not allow him to take a puppy out to the car to meet his others - as people have already said the germs etc could harm the pup and the rest of the litter and Mum may be funny with the puppy once back in with the litter - I have known Mums to kill their own if they are worried etc. Chance mating??? an accident??? and if this is the case then the owner of the stud is NOT entilted to a puppy back hes trying to pull the wool over your eyes with that one. Stand firm on this with the puppy meeting his other dogs - his other dogs could try to bite the puppy - it only takes a second for an accident like that to happen.....
I too shall obstain from commenting on cross breeding - I think my views on the matter are well known.

Thank you everyone - I am glad my instincts proved correct. After the 'incident' we exchanged numbers with the owner - and once the pregnancy was confirmed was when he started to go on and on about having his choice. No stud fee was paid or discussed!
But anyway, no way will I let him take his choice to be sniffed! Being as I have been so fussy about the puppy buyers, do I have the same rights to do this with 'dog man' as I don't know where he lives - just his number??

out of interest what was this 'chance' meeting between - what breeds and were they on leads

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You have the same rights with this man as you have with all your other prospective buyers. The mum and the puppies are your property, not his, and you have the right to do whatever you want to do. Do not let him browbeat you. If there was no arrangement about stud fees, or a puppy in lieu of stud fees, then I would be telling this guy to get lost, quite frankly! He does not sound like the kind of person you want to sell your puppies to - anyone who is proposing to do what he wants does not know much about puppies. He certainly wouldn't get his pick of the litter. Even if he had been a decent prospective owner, and no arrangement had been made re stud fees, then I would probably be telling him that he could have a puppy of my choosing (not his) at a reduced price.

How did the accidental mating actually take place? Sorry, I do tend to be very nosy!

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Hi
We were on our local heath with Biscuit off her lead. We were obviously over confident that no dog stood a chance as she had always rather vocal about her disregard or any interest in any dogs! She snarled in her usual not interested way and we apologised to the other owner and explained that she was out of season and saying no! He said she was a lovely looking dog and had we thought of breeding her as he wanted his dog (A Jack Russell) to father another lot of puppies! (he had fathered three with their bitch). Whilst we were saying we had thought about it but not yet as she was a bit young and were not really sure what it all involved etc we realised it was too late - they had locked! Hindsight is a good thing and we realise that she should of been kept on her lead! Since that incident he has been in contact regarding 'his' puppy! We have been incredibly naive about it all and just went along with what he said and have since learnt much more. There that fills you in on the soap opera so far!!

I'm sorry, but just because his dog accidently sired a litter, does not give him the soul rights to one of your puppies.
No stud contract no nothing in place - obviously his own dog was also off lead, so I am afraid it is just one of those things! Ownership is 9/10ths of the law, and you have those puppies and are ultimately responsible for them, and while I agree he should have an interest into as to where the pups are homed, I disagree that he is entitled to a puppy because after all said and done the mating was an accident, if this was the case we would have people all over the UK demanding puppies as their dogs had accidently sired litters!

I would question his ethics as an owner in wanting to bring his dogs around whilst the puppies are still at a VERY vunerable stage in their lives, also what does he intend doing with the said puppy? I would question his motives and reasoning behind why he wants a puppy if he already has more than one dog that he is breeding from.

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