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Old 20-03-2009, 12:06 PM
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Re: HELP!! Question about accidental mating!

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Jeez What a post. I am appalled at your "and quite frankly the hip scores etc don't mean a thing with mongrels" Well IMO It does mean a lot for a new owner to watch their dog become crippled and in pain with HD.
Th mismate injection is in no way dangerous!!!!! I would say a Labrador size body on Apso legs would be more dangerous
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Old 20-03-2009, 12:38 PM
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Re: HELP!! Question about accidental mating!

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Jeez What a post. I am appalled at your "and quite frankly the hip scores etc don't mean a thing with mongrels" Well IMO It does mean a lot for a new owner to watch their dog become crippled and in pain with HD.
Th mismate injection is in no way dangerous!!!!! I would say a Labrador size body on Apso legs would be more dangerous
I completely agree with you on that. Similarly I have seen a BeaglexGSD and the dog was born with a hip deformity preventing her from being able to walk properly. It was heartbreaking to watch and even now I am still seeing such crosses being bred.

As this was an accidental mating, prevention is much better than risking the pups being born with such problems. I would personally go for the jab in this case. The health of Mum and Pups should be a much higher priority than profits.

I am in no position to say whether the OP should go ahead with breeding her Lab or not but I would say it's best to do as much research as possible before starting the breeding plans. All breeders have to start somewhere after all but research is key.

It's also worth mentioning that seasons typically last three weeks, with the most fertile period being the second week. So leaving your dog apart from the intact male for only the first week (as I read in the first post) was rather silly. They should've been left apart for the full 3 weeks. Like I said, research!
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Re: HELP!! Question about accidental mating!

What I ment by hip scoring in mongrels means nothing is "most people that have a mongrel aren't even aware of what hipscores are". Thats the biggest problem with emails what people mean isn't always clear and other people jump to conclusions. Unfortunately those of us with pedigree dog are all too much aware of how important it is and not even all pedigree breeds do hip scoring? I did not say they weren't important! I breed German Shepherds and I of all people know how important hipscoring is along with Elbow scoring!!!! I hip & elbow score my girls as well as eye testing etc before breeding and I won't use a boy unless he is also fully health checked with agreeable scores. I am all for the Kennel Club refusing to register any puppies that are from non health tested parents. Unfortunately they have their heads in the sand and do it ass backwards by charging people to join their accredited breeders schem which I refuse to do because why should I pay more when I already pay to have my dogs health tested and any buyers of my puppies can see from my adverts that I am a concious breeder trying to improve the health of my breed. I know the kennel club have to cover their added administration cost but surely that should fall on to those that don't health test by raising their registration fees? But we all know they won't change the system as it makes them so much money.
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Re: HELP!! Question about accidental mating!

The mismate jab can knock their seasons out of whack, so she may not come in the next time you are expecting, but you must get it done asap. You mention she'd stopped bleeding, this is actually when they stand, ie are ready to mate and become pregnant.

You say she has had her hips checked, do you have the scores? Are they suitable for her to be bred from, ie around the BMS? And have you had her elbows done - if you are waiting to have either done, ensure you go to a vet who is competent at taking the x-rays to be submitted to the BVA, as it can make a difference in the scoring results.

Are you aware of the other health tests for labradors? I'm happy to help, in fact I can point you in the direction of both optigen and CNM clinics where you will get a discount for joining in with other labrador owners getting their dog(s) tested at the same time. I'm having Tau CNM tested, its her last health test - bar the current clear eye cert, which will be in place before she's mated in the future.
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