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Old 27-02-2008, 06:49 PM
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Re: why do breeders breed dogs with known disabilities

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Not trying to be funny but disabled people are aloud to have kids ,so whats the diference
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Humans, disabled or able bodied have the choice whether to have children or not. when it is dogs we make the decision, and I'm at risk of sounding like brainless, but there are more than enough healthy dogs to breed from, without using unhealthy.
Bringing pups into the world which you know are likely to have pain and suffering is not really on in a civilised society.
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Old 27-02-2008, 08:28 PM
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Re: why do breeders breed dogs with known disabilities

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Humans, disabled or able bodied have the choice whether to have children or not. when it is dogs we make the decision, and I'm at risk of sounding like brainless, but there are more than enough healthy dogs to breed from, without using unhealthy.
Bringing pups into the world which you know are likely to have pain and suffering is not really on in a civilised society.
No i agree ,but surely its worse when disabled humans have kids,i cant see what the difference is though ,if both are bringing disabled beings in to the world! The end result is the same no matter how you sugar coat it
So let me ask the question ,who's worse a the dog breeder or the human??? Lets be fair their both as bad but were not aloud to say this!
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Old 27-02-2008, 08:43 PM
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Re: why do breeders breed dogs with known disabilities

Whether to have children or not should be a major decision in anybodies life. I believe If the person is mentally capable of making that decision, then it is there human right to do so, but this is all a bit deep for a pet form.
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Old 27-02-2008, 09:11 PM
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Whether to have children or not should be a major decision in anybodies life. I believe If the person is mentally capable of making that decision, then it is there human right to do so, but this is all a bit deep for a pet form.
No i am not disagreeing jenny
But am interested to see why people use a double standard! as its the same !
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Old 27-02-2008, 09:33 PM
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Re: why do breeders breed dogs with known disabilities

Ok use this as an example,not all disabled people will have disabled kids.

Some ordinary people will have disabled kids.

I have 3 children,my youngest is 11 yrs old,he was born with a Cleft Palate, and only one functioning kidney,the other was non functioning dilated and polycycstic.

We haven't a clue where either condition has come from,as neither my family or hubbys family have any history of either,yet my chances of having another baby (If I wanted one but I don't) have dropped from one in about 2 million to 1 in 200,with the same conditions.

As for the OP,The answer is simple...... money
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Old 27-02-2008, 09:53 PM
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Ok use this as an example,not all disabled people will have disabled kids.

Some ordinary people will have disabled kids.

I have 3 children,my youngest is 11 yrs old,he was born with a Cleft Palate, and only one functioning kidney,the other was non functioning dilated and polycycstic.

We haven't a clue where either condition has come from,as neither my family or hubbys family have any history of either,yet my chances of having another baby (If I wanted one but I don't) have dropped from one in about 2 million to 1 in 200,with the same conditions.

As for the OP,The answer is simple...... money
But even after you had your first child you still went ahead and had more
So i ask the question again ,why the double standards???
What makes us so sure a human disability wont get passed on like we think a dogs will
Surely we should practice the same code of ethics with both !?
Should your son be aloud to have offspring sallyanne ???
Acording to your ethics he shouldent!
For the record i am not having a go,but am not convinced theres not a double
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But even after you had your first child you still went ahead and had more
So i ask the question again ,why the double standards???
What makes us so sure a human disability wont get passed on like we think a dogs will
Surely we should practice the same code of ethics with both !?
Should your son be aloud to have offspring sallyanne ???
Acording to your ethics he shouldent!
I think you've misread my post,Tom's my youngest child,I had no more after he was born,nor do I intend to!
I had Tom after Luke and Liz,both were normal full term deliveries with no medical problems.

It's entirely Tom's decision to make when he's older,he will know all the risks involved.He will also know whats involved surgery wise.
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Old 27-02-2008, 10:07 PM
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I think you've misread my post,Tom's my youngest child,I had no more after he was born,nor do I intend to!
I had Tom after Luke and Liz,both were normal full term deliveries with no medical problems.

It's entirely Tom's decision to make when he's older,he will know all the risks involved.He will also know whats involved surgery wise.
I am sorry for your little boy sallyanne god love him
But still find this hole thing hypocritical! sorry
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Re: why do breeders breed dogs with known disabilities

Well I have just logged in to find the many passionate responses to this discussion. Thank you to everyone, good and bad for their words of wisdom.

First of all Bullbreeds your analogies are so irrelevant, the only reason these disabled puppies are being brought into this world is for money, they don't give a damn, disabled people are not profiteering when they chose to have kids.

Jenny I appreciate your support, we have a choice dogs don't, we wouldn't put our kids through this potential pain and I'm darn sure the dogs wouldn't either if they had a choice.

What I want to know is will the KC do anything or are they just there providing administration and hey profiteering yet again!
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Well I have just logged in to find the many passionate responses to this discussion. Thank you to everyone, good and bad for their words of wisdom.

First of all Bullbreeds your analogies are so irrelevant, the only reason these disabled puppies are being brought into this world is for money, they don't give a damn, disabled people are not profiteering when they chose to have kids.

Jenny I appreciate your support, we have a choice dogs don't, we wouldn't put our kids through this potential pain and I'm darn sure the dogs wouldn't either if they had a choice.

What I want to know is will the KC do anything or are they just there providing administration and hey profiteering yet again!


Excuse me but I never mentioned disabled people!
Perhaps you need to read the posts properly!
You are funding bad breeders as far as im concerned and that is a very valid and relevant point!
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