why do breeders breed dogs with known disabilities - Page 2

bullbreeds · #11 (**permalink**) 26-02-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Newfies

Bullbreeds-
Unfortunately when you look at a car, you can walk away, theres no emotional attachment. I'm sorry but I couldnt walk away even tho the breeder was suspect to say the least, someone was going to have her, i would have just been passing the problem on. Irresponsible breeders should be made accountable, without evidence its very difficult.

Regardless of any attachment, you chose to buy a pup from who you considered to be 'suspect'!
If this was the case then what did you expect? You took the risk at the end of the day.
I can apreciate the attachment side of it and how difficult it must have been to just walk away but this over ruled your better judgement. You said yourself the breeder was suspect so dont complain about something you bought from someone you thought was dodgy!
Like I stated previously, dodgy breeders should never be allowed to breed and there are plenty of them out there. *This is why the buyers needs to educate themselves*.
If they choose to buy from someone they think is suspect then they take the risk. If they choose to buy the puppy regardless of their better judgement and because they felt sorry for the puppy then they must deal with the potential problems they face. It was their choice to buy that pup.
Personally I would do the right thing by reporting the breeder and not buy a pup from this type of person. If I did though then I wouldnt complain about all the problems the pup has later down the line. It would have been my responsibility to check the parents were hip scored/health tested. I wouldnt have just taken the breeders word for it if they claimed this had been done.

tashi · #12 (**permalink**) 26-02-2008, 09:17 AM

I really wish you the best of fortunes with your puppy I have a friend who breeds and shows newfies and I think they are absolutely lovely, in fact my youngest daughter sometimes uses her dogs for the junior handling. Your puppy is lucky to have found you and I know you will do the best you can.

linton · #13 (**permalink**) 26-02-2008, 09:20 AM

Yes I agree the breeders did do the right thing in the first place by having the parents hip scored, but on being told that this particular mating threw a very bad case of HD, they should have used another dog on the bitch to see if it was just this particular mating that is not compatible. I know it is what I would have done, sometimes dogs are not compatible and do throw bad pups you just dont repeat the mating. However it would have meant finding money for a stud....less profit on the pups...

bullbreeds · #14 (**permalink**) 26-02-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by linton

Yes I agree the breeders did do the right thing in the first place by having the parents hip scored, but on being told that this particular mating threw a very bad case of HD, they should have used another dog on the bitch to see if it was just this particular mating that is not compatible. I know it is what I would have done, sometimes dogs are not compatible and do throw bad pups you just dont repeat the mating. However it would have meant finding money for a stud....less profit on the pups...

I agree, they should never have taken the risk with a second litter but like you said - stud fee!

Jonsville · #15 (**permalink**) 26-02-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bullbreeds

Regardless of any attachment, you chose to buy a pup from who you considered to be 'suspect'!
If this was the case then what did you expect? You took the risk at the end of the day.
I can apreciate the attachment side of it and how difficult it must have been to just walk away but this over ruled your better judgement. You said yourself the breeder was suspect so dont complain about something you bought from someone you thought was dodgy!
Like I stated previously, dodgy breeders should never be allowed to breed and there are plenty of them out there. *This is why the buyers needs to educate themselves*.
If they choose to buy from someone they think is suspect then they take the risk. If they choose to buy the puppy regardless of their better judgement and because they felt sorry for the puppy then they must deal with the potential problems they face. It was their choice to buy that pup.
Personally I would do the right thing by reporting the breeder and not buy a pup from this type of person. If I did though then I wouldnt complain about all the problems the pup has later down the line. It would have been my responsibility to check the parents were hip scored/health tested. I wouldnt have just taken the breeders word for it if they claimed this had been done.

Couldnt have said it better thou its a sad post to have to agree with

under the poor circumstances of the Pups that are sufferering as a result.

but can i ask when these things occur do any of the new owners of these Pups ever write to the Kennel club and the respective Breed Clubs to report such matters particularly if the Breeders of these Pups are totally unhelpful when they recieve the updates of the pups they have bred and the problems they are suffering from!!! There are codes of conduct to be upheld both with the KC and Breed Clubs

bullbreeds · #16 (**permalink**) 26-02-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonsville

Couldnt have said it better thou its a sad post to have to agree with

under the poor circumstances of the Pups that are sufferering as a result.

but can i ask when these things occur do any of the new owners of these Pups ever write to the Kennel club and the respective Breed Clubs to report such matters particularly if the Breeders of these Pups are totally unhelpful when they recieve the updates of the pups they have bred and the problems they are suffering from!!! There are codes of conduct to be upheld both with the KC and Breed Clubs

They should with out doubt contact the Kennel Club/Breed clubs etc..
Hopefully it would help close those breeders down, but all the time there are buyers out there willing to pay for unhealthy and poorly bred puppies they are allowing the unscrupulous breeders to carry on.

Jonsville · #17 (**permalink**) 26-02-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bullbreeds

They should with out doubt contact the Kennel Club/Breed clubs etc..
Hopefully it would help close those breeders down, but all the time there are buyers out there willing to pay for unhealthy and poorly bred puppies they are allowing the unscrupulous breeders to carry on.

bullbreeds · #18 (**permalink**) 27-02-2008, 10:00 AM

Someone gave me bad rep for this!
Sorry if you dont agree with me but my opinion still stands regardless of petty reputation scores!
The people that knowingly buy puppies from dodgy breeders are just as much to blame as they are the ones funding those types of breeders!

tashi · #19 (**permalink**) 27-02-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bullbreeds

Someone gave me bad rep for this!
Sorry if you dont agree with me but my opinion still stands regardless of petty reputation scores!
The people that knowingly buy puppies from dodgy breeders are just as much to blame as they are the ones funding those types of breeders!

not me we ALL have our own opinions on matters of this nature

garryd · #20 (**permalink**) 27-02-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Newfies

why do breeders breed dogs with known parental disabilities, my poor 9 month old newfy is suffering after a TPO for hyp dysplasia and that was on the good hip. Is there nothing that can be done to stop these poor animals being brought into world to suffer this pain and misery?

Not trying to be funny but disabled people are aloud to have kids ,so whats the diference

???

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