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Old 26-04-2008, 05:10 PM
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Re: any 1 has dealings with a puppy farm?

Hi tobymum i hope its ok as i cant send you a pm ive sent you an email on your site x
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Old 26-04-2008, 05:36 PM
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Of course there are good breeders in Wales unfortunately there are more bad than good, Carmarthenshire having the highest number Pet shops all round the UK buy from welsh puppy farms it is a fact.
I'm sorry i have to disagree with you just because Carmarthenshire has the highest puppy farm numbers it doesn't mean that Wales has more bad than good breeders.

Puppy farming should be stamped out all over the UK but taring most of the breeders in Wales with the same brush won't help the fight, if anything it will alienate the good people who would like to help stamp this out.

Keep up the good work on your website, one day hopefully this dreadful farming will be stamped out for good.
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I'm sorry i have to disagree with you just because Carmarthenshire has the highest puppy farm numbers it doesn't mean that Wales has more bad than good breeders.

Puppy farming should be stamped out all over the UK but taring most of the breeders in Wales with the same brush won't help the fight, if anything it will alienate the good people who would like to help stamp this out.

Keep up the good work on your website, one day hopefully this dreadful farming will be stamped out for good.
I totally agree with griffpan, just because one area has the highest number doesnt mean the rest of the country is the same, i know many good breeders in Wales and the good do outweigh the bad. The focus should be on stamping out puppy farming and not accusing the majority of welsh breeders as being bad.

I stand by what you are trying to do in regards to helping these animals but please refrain from remarks like this which are very offensive to those doing their best and the right thing by the dogs/puppies.

I hope your efforts do get noticed and that things begin to change and if everyone did their bit then things can improve.
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Old 26-04-2008, 07:30 PM
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Re: any 1 has dealings with a puppy farm?

Sorry if I upset you with my comments about Welsh dog breeders, maybe its just that the bad breeders get more publicity and I am sure there are many good ethical breeders in Wales. Unfortunately I suppose we only hear about the bad.

We do also have complaints about breeders in Birmingham, Crewe, Manchester,
Yorkshire, Derbyshire and Kent but not on the scale of Wales and Ireland. I would not wish to alienate anyone but I have to be thruthful ?


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Re: any 1 has dealings with a puppy farm?

Scotland is just as bad - we were at a dog show, and spoke to this "gentleman" showing his poodle who said we should not have bought our dog from this person - this gentleman was charged several weeks later for cruelty and his dogs removed.
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I haven't... But my Auntie has! She bought what was supposed to be a Lhapo Apso, or is it Lhaso Apso? lol! I never know which way round it is... Anyway, she was at first supposed to be having a girl puppy, then the woman changed her mind and told her she couldn't have the girl, but could have the boy instead. Once she got to the house to pick the puppy up, she was kept waiting in the hallway whilst the woman went to get the puppy, there were all cages in the hallway, and she said the house stung of pee, she also bred cats, loads of breeds of dogs, and other animals. All the dealings were done in the hallway, she paid £500 for him, and he didn't have any papers or anything! He had diaorhea for the first couple of times of him being home, plus he was 6 weeks old when she got him! He now looks like a Lhaso Apso, crossed with a Pekingese, he's an adorable dog, but I hate to think what happened to all the other animals this woman bred! She did report it to the RSPCA, I just hope somthing was done about it!
Its awful that this happens, it should be stopped!
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Tobymum you didn't offend me it's just that there is NO statistical evidence at all that there are more bad breeders than good in Wales or anywhere else.

I think you tend to hear more about puppy farms in Wales i agree. There was also a time when the goverment allowed the Welsh hill farmers a grant to breed pups to help their income, however i don't automatically mean that the hill farmers are the culprits.

This is a problem in the whole of the UK unfortunately and the quicker somthings done about it the better.
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I would never buy a puppy from anywhere other than a breeder whose lines i've researched and talked to for a while before getting the pup.

The more people keep buying these pups because they 'can't leave them' the more puppy farmers will keep breeding! There are thousands of dogs who are in situations like this or worse and its because people keep lining the pockets of these despicable people!
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Old 27-04-2008, 04:25 PM
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Tobymum you didn't offend me it's just that there is NO statistical evidence at all that there are more bad breeders than good in Wales or anywhere else.

I think you tend to hear more about puppy farms in Wales i agree. There was also a time when the goverment allowed the Welsh hill farmers a grant to breed pups to help their income, however i don't automatically mean that the hill farmers are the culprits.

This is a problem in the whole of the UK unfortunately and the quicker somthings done about it the better.
So glad we are still friendsyou are right there is no statistical evidence there are more bad than good breeders in Wales, I messed up with that statement

I get so frustrated and just wonder where we go from here, no one wants to listen ie MP'S councils etc. I know people have been working against these places for years and nothing changes in fact seems to get worse.
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Old 27-04-2008, 05:05 PM
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Re: any 1 has dealings with a puppy farm?

I know what you mean it's very frustrating, nobody in authority seems to listen at all unless you can get solid evidence and even then i think it gets brushed to one side.

I often think that it would be better if there was a organisation that dealt just with policing of dogs and all things dog related then maybe somthing would be done. What do you think would be the best?
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