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Old 11-02-2012, 03:57 PM
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On Saturday night my mum brought a dog round to my house. the dog belonged to the old lady who lived next door to her. I've known this dog for around 4 years now so I'm assuming she is around 4, she's beautiful a lovely little pomeranian x chihuahua.
The old lady has gone into hospital and my mum has taken her 3 dogs on to look after as she is very ill and cant take care of them herself and none of her family are willing to help, basically her own daughter told my mum that as far as she is concerned the dogs can be put down!!!

The dogs are 2 male pomeranians and a female pomeranian x chihuahua, none of them are spayed or neutered.

the female is considerably larger to the last time i saw her and upon feeling her stomach i could have sworn i felt something.
Tuesday i took her to the vets for a scan and turns out she is pregnant, the vet reckons she is around 6-7 weeks pregnant judging on the size of the pups.

i told my mum and she told me that on christmas day she went out to put the bins out and she saw the female and one of the males tied in the back garden, she went round and told the owner and the owner said it will be ok and she would have her to the vets. about a week and a half later she saw them again tied in the back garden. the owner took the dog to the vet and we assumed the pregnancy had been terminated.

judging by what the vet said im thinking she became pregnant from the first time, which makes her coming up to week 7.
i dont think the owner is going to be out of hospital in the next 2 weeks and i cant turn her over to a rescue place, id feel awful.

This is not my first litter as my own pomeranians had a litter and everything went fine so i do know what to expect. both mine are spayed/neutered now so i dont have any of the whelping kit or information i had back then.

she doesnt seem to be in any discomfort at the moment however she does feel very very round, but should i be able to feel the pups moving now?i remember with my own litter i couldnt feel the pups until week 8. is it possible shes further on than week 7? could she have allowed the male to tie with her over a 3 week space? and if so what would happen, could she have become pregnant and then tied again? is it possible to be pregnant with 2 litters of different ages? sorry if they seem like ridiculous questions but i have never been in this situation before.
the vet said she definitely saw 2 pups, i saw these two myself but she said there could be another she wasnt 100%
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:15 PM
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Re: Help Please...

I'd say no, a bitch only ovulates once during her season, as far as I'm aware, so she should just have the one litter. Some will stand throughout their season whether they are ovulating or not, so it's possible for them to have tied quite sime time apart. It could be either of the times they mated that the bitch was ovulating, I think Swarthy on here has a bitch that stands pretty much throughout the season, I just hope the vet has a bit of knowledge about canine reproduction and can help you guess which date you need to be aiming for. A week overdue could be pretty serious for her I'd imagine, I hope some more experienced breeders are along soon to comment, I'm just about to embark (hopefully) on a first litter from my bitch so am going on head knowledge only

Good luck to you and the bitch, I hope she comes through ok. Do you know what will happen to the dogs after this lady is out of hospital?

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Old 11-02-2012, 04:25 PM
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Thank you for your reply. I feel a bit better now knowing there will only be one litter, i'd hate to think she was going to go through it twice in a week.

The vet i took her to is very good, its the only vet i have used and probably would use for my own dogs so i hope she is also reliable with these dates.

I haven't had any thought yet as to what would happen, my mum is going to visit the lady tonight and so is going to tell her of the situation and suggest that mum and pups stay with me, until she is well again and pups are older as like i said this lady is far to ill to look after older dogs never mind newborns.

I know many people will see it as i have no right to offer this or to interfere but i have made the decision now and just hope she agrees to it.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:26 PM
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One of my girls will stand through her entire season, the floosy lol. Bitches only ovulate the once and all eggs are fertilised at the same time. Can you take her back for another scan and get a more reliable indication of dates if you are concerned, i would recommend someone that does the scanning on a regular basis rather than the vet, i personally use a sheep scanner. That way, you will have a better idea of when she is due and can be prepared, also you will need to know incase she goes over her date as there may be a problem.

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Ah i definitely feel better knowing that thank you.

How will i find a sheep scanner? should i Google it?

My mum asked the woman and she said she would think about it, i would have thought she'd be grateful of the help though.

When my own dog was pregnant i didnt change her over to puppy food, would you recommend i do it now?
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A bit harsh, don't you think? The little old lady didn't ask to become ill.. Her family have said that they wouldn't care if the dogs were PTS.

OP, you're doing a wonderful job of taking care of the dogs, I'm sure the lady will be over the moon that her babies are being taken care of.

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Old 11-02-2012, 10:21 PM
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You could put her onto the puppy version of the food she is on now (assuming it is a decent quality food), divide her meals up into smaller meals as there isn't much room for food in the last weeks.

Get her whelping area ready, she is probably feeling a little overwhelmed at the mo as her owner is not around. Make sure it is somewhere nice and quiet where she can relax with her babies. Get your whelping kit together so you are prepared. If you need any help you are more than welcome to pm me.


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are you having a bad day? you seem to be unnessesarily negative (and a little rude imo) today for some reason...
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You could put her onto the puppy version of the food she is on now (assuming it is a decent quality food), divide her meals up into smaller meals as there isn't much room for food in the last weeks.

Get her whelping area ready, she is probably feeling a little overwhelmed at the mo as her owner is not around. Make sure it is somewhere nice and quiet where she can relax with her babies. Get your whelping kit together so you are prepared. If you need any help you are more than welcome to pm me.


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This is not my first litter as my own pomeranians had a litter and everything went fine so i do know what to expect. both mine are spayed/neutered now so i dont have any of the whelping kit or information i had back then.
For information check out the stickys from the main page.... they were a godsend to me with both of my litters - hugs for being so considerate and good luck for the whelping x
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