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Old 04-02-2012, 07:47 PM
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Re: Mismate jab- should I trust vet's advice?

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it would not be very caring or professional and I do not believe it happens.
It happens - it might not happen with your vet - but it happens - and not just in this scenario - but in many others as well - sad, wrong yes, but very true unfortunately

I've heard it from the horses mouth that bills direct to insurance companies carry a a significant premium
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It happens - it might not happen with your vet - but it happens - and not just in this scenario - but in many others as well - sad, wrong yes, but very true unfortunately

I've heard it from the horses mouth that bills direct to insurance companies carry a a significant premium
I could believe that. It happens with everything insurance related. It is very common to be offered a big bill so that everyone can make a profit out of the insurance company.
It annoys me that vets offer different treatment for insured animals too but then again they are being realistic in that most owners do not have the money to spend a fortune on treatment and tests that may or may not do any good.
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I do think it very unfair to constantly think that a vet only gives advice that will gain him money. If I thought my vet did that I would change vets - it would not be very caring or professional and I do not believe it happens.
Unfortunately, this does happen. Did you not see the Medivet programme? I know of one local vet who left the practice (not medivet) because she was so fed up with being pushed to get owners to agree with as much treatment as possible, regardless of if it was necessary.

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I know nothing about Alizin but the old stilboestrel injection had to be given within 72 hours so maybe the vet is thinking of that one and has had bad experiences of Alizin so does not like to give it.
The only problem with stilboestrel (if that is what is still used) is that it prolongs the season so vets always used to be a bit wary as you can only give it once and when there has been one accident there is every chance of a second.
It probably wasn't around when you were a vet nurse as it is a more recent one that was originally used to treat pyometra. It is considered much safer than the old mismates and it is more likely that this vet is unaware of it. Some don't keep up with the times as much as they should!
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Re: Mismate jab- should I trust vet's advice?

I was told by the vet they don't like giving the mismate after 72 hours of mating. But is this just a way to put people off so they make more money???





I once had a dog that had to have this jab and i was told by the vet that it was most effective within the 1st 72 hours.

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Re: Mismate jab- should I trust vet's advice?

Alizin is most effective within the first 21 days, it is not reccommended to be administered after day 25. However it can be given upto 45 days after the mating. Of course the sooner it is given the higher the chance of success and no knock on effects to the bitch.

The reccommendation about day 25 refers to increased stress to the bitch, plus the chance that the animal may have to stay under a vets supervision until termination has concluded due to the development of a puppy after about 3 weeks. After day 25 there is also an increased chance of the bitch developing mammary congestion/mastitis, lethargy, depression, anorexia and having to go through the possible stressful scenerio of having to "give birth" to foetuses.

The treatment involves 2 jabs 24 hours apart. This may then be followed by a scan about 10 days later to confirm success. The gap of 10 days is due to the fact it takes 4-7 days for the jabs to take effect.
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Re: Mismate jab- should I trust vet's advice?

Just an update- Angel had the mismate jab on monday
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