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Old 25-01-2008, 04:35 PM
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Unhappy breeding problem

My female has had 3 litters in the past. We use to have the stud dog on our property so trying to pin point the breeding time was not an issue. The last 2heats were not successful breedings, I thought I had "missed" the ovulation time. We've tried 2 different stud dogs, the female stands for them but the dogs do not tie up and there is no litter. This is the 3rd breeding attempt, the 3rd heat and we've had a stud dog here from day 8 of her heat until today which is the 13th day still the stud dog does not try to long and doesn't tie up. The female is standing for him and has her tail to the side. What is the problem? I don't get it? The stud dog has bred in the past too??
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Old 25-01-2008, 04:46 PM
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My female has had 3 litters in the past. We use to have the stud dog on our property so trying to pin point the breeding time was not an issue. The last 2heats were not successful breedings, I thought I had "missed" the ovulation time. We've tried 2 different stud dogs, the female stands for them but the dogs do not tie up and there is no litter. This is the 3rd breeding attempt, the 3rd heat and we've had a stud dog here from day 8 of her heat until today which is the 13th day still the stud dog does not try to long and doesn't tie up. The female is standing for him and has her tail to the side. What is the problem? I don't get it? The stud dog has bred in the past too??
The most common reason for missing is getting the wrong time.

How old is your bitch? To have had 3 litters and to have missed on 3 recent seasons she must be getting on a bit? A bitch has usually just 6 productive years (around 2 years to before her 8th birthday), and you would have a year or so between litters?

At day 13 in my breed it would be a rare bitch that was ready most of the successful outcomes I have had have been mated on days 15 to 17.

If the stud is experienced then if he is not that interested she isn't ready.

Bitches that have had litters previously will often be very willing to mate for prolonged periods, but a good stud will know when she is actually ready. What days did she stand for the last 3 litters, as if it was a similar time for each one then that is a good indication, though each season can be different.

If she has already had 3 litters then she should have produced something worthwhile for you already and perhaps it is time to retire her.

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Old 25-01-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: breeding problem

She is 4 1/2, still in her prime. She is a larador retriever.

We have a waiting list of people who are wanting to buy pups and have been waiting since the last heat. I always skip a heat between litters and do plan on getting her spayed if she has another litter. I'm feeling bad about having to make phone calls once again to people on the waiting list.

Maybe I just need to give them more time. I don't know the day of her heats when she bred in the past, I didn't worry about it because we owned the stud dog and he lived here on the property. The only thing I really kept track of is the day they first bred so I would know when it was time for her to whelp. We no longer own the stud dog, we are using someone elses.
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Re: breeding problem

my bitch never used to tie right until the end of her season, she like yours would stand and move tail but still it didnt happen till the end . and i mean the end, i always think i missed it as she was always at the end of 3 weeks. i had a stud her with me from the 6 day and he stayed for two hole weeks and still nearly missed it as they only tied the day before he was due to be picked up hope this helps
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Re: breeding problem

So your bitch is 4 1/2 years old, has had three litters already and the past three seasons hasn't been 'caught'?
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My female has had 3 litters in the past. We use to have the stud dog on our property so trying to pin point the breeding time was not an issue. The last 2heats were not successful breedings, I thought I had "missed" the ovulation time. We've tried 2 different stud dogs, the female stands for them but the dogs do not tie up and there is no litter. This is the 3rd breeding attempt, the 3rd heat and we've had a stud dog here from day 8 of her heat until today which is the 13th day still the stud dog does not try to long and doesn't tie up. The female is standing for him and has her tail to the side. What is the problem? I don't get it? The stud dog has bred in the past too??
I myself would recommend getting pre-mate test done on her next season, Maybe going from her 12th day upwards, Befor that make sure u get a experienced stud lined up who is well proven.
The pre-mate test showed my female was'nt fertile untill her 19th day, I was shocked at the 19th day because its so close to coming of her season, But she still took and had 9 babys to show 4 it .
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I myself would recommend getting pre-mate test done on her next season, Maybe going from her 12th day upwards, Befor that make sure u get a experienced stud lined up who is well proven.
The pre-mate test showed my female was'nt fertile untill her 19th day, I was shocked at the 19th day because its so close to coming of her season, But she still took and had 9 babys to show 4 it .
some bull terriers have huge litters ! my tia came from a litter of 11
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some bull terriers have huge litters ! my tia came from a litter of 11
wow,,,your have your hands full then,,if she takes after her mum,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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some bull terriers have huge litters ! my tia came from a litter of 11
Good gawd 11 of the terrors 9 was hard enough to hand rear, Let alone having an extra 2 ontop

I called all mine the bull terrorist lol, They was so cute yet so naughty lol.
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my dog had a litter abou 7 years ago she had 12 2 passed away but we had 10 little terrors to care for luckily for us she was a great mum
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