Pet Forums Community

Go Back   Pet Forums Community > Dog Forums > Dog Breeding

Dog Breeding Discuss all topics related to responsible dog breeding. Including help and advice on dog breeding issues regarding the mating process, pregnancy issues, post birth issues and all other related topics.

Registered users don't see this ad - Register Now (It's free!)
Like Tree35Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 06:28 AM
dexter's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: on the coast
Posts: 5,057
Images: 3
dexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the rough
Using my dog at Stud dog?

I have decided to let my boy be used at stud now he is 3 years of age , after turning down several requests to use him.


I.m not sure how many of you have or do use your dog at stud, there aren't many threads on this subject that i can see, and i do have a few reservations.

Any resulting pups would be my resposibilty as well, and if any one can answer my couple of questions i have it would be appreciated.
cloverfan likes this.
__________________
love me love the dogs
Reply With Quote
Registered users don't see this ad - Register Now (It's free!)
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 06:41 AM
Sleeping_Lion's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,427
Images: 2
Sleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

No idea Dexter, but just wanted to say I wish you all the best, I know how much work you put into your dogs. I do know it's not an easy decision to make and after chatting to a number of folk who stand dogs at stud, it's certainly not an easy task, and you seem to be eligible to pick up the flack for any resulting problems.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 08:33 AM
cloverfan's Avatar
Pet Forums Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 275
cloverfan will become famous soon enough
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

whoo hoo baby Dexters! x
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 08:38 AM
Blondie's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,362
Blondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant future
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

Whats ya questions Dexter??
__________________
Fere libenter hormines id quod volunt credunt
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 12:25 PM
dexter's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: on the coast
Posts: 5,057
Images: 3
dexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the rough
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceearott View Post
Whats ya questions Dexter??
lol.


1.now i have 2 entire males in my household and don't want to rock the boat i would prefer him to mate the bitch in her home because of this. are there any potential problems if i did this ??

2. years ago if you used an unproven dog the stud was free. i been told to charge a fee on production of live pups?? yes or no?


ta x
__________________
love me love the dogs
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 12:35 PM
Blondie's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,362
Blondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant futureBlondie has a brilliant future
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dexter View Post
lol.


1.now i have 2 entire males in my household and don't want to rock the boat i would prefer him to mate the bitch in her home because of this. are there any potential problems if i did this ??

2. years ago if you used an unproven dog the stud was free. i been told to charge a fee on production of live pups?? yes or no?


ta x
Hmm, be prepared for a possible change in dynamics once one male has been to stud - he may go into 'I am the big I am' now mode, lol, or he may not - all are different and there is no real way of telling till it happens!

The bitch normally comes to the dog, but I guess if you have nowhere 'private' away from the others to do the mating, and somewhere private and quiet for the dog to rest afterwards, it may well be prudent to consider going to the bitch - its up to you and the bitch owner to sort out between you. I dont see anything 'wrong' with you taking the male to the bitch, I just know its not the 'norm'.

As for Stud fees, my understanding is, it varies from breed to breed and person to person too. When we have used a male, we have always on paid production of pups. Only once did we pay 50 quid up-front, as a 'handling' fee. We have never had a stud owner with a stud dog contract either, nor have we ever used one - but some people do, it might be something you wanna think about too. In my experience, people seem to charge a little less for a first mating, then they may put the fee up after the dog has produced pups the first time - again, I think it depends on the individual and what is seen as the 'norm' in that breed.
__________________
Fere libenter hormines id quod volunt credunt
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 12:45 PM
dexter's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: on the coast
Posts: 5,057
Images: 3
dexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the roughdexter is a jewel in the rough
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

ok ta x

he is pretty laid back to the other 2 lol so hope he stays that way.

My old boy was used 20 years ago and he was just the same after he'd been used but then he was the only male i had in those days.

re; stud , yes i thought i'd charge a reduced fee as they had been pestering to use him since he was 4 mths old.
The bitch owner is an AB so all health tests done (so has my boy! before anyone asks)and as the bitch is not a maiden seems ideal.
this is a whole new dimension for me lol , with my old boy an experienced friend helped me out. i got the snappy end.
__________________
love me love the dogs
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 12:49 PM
Sleeping_Lion's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,427
Images: 2
Sleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond reputeSleeping_Lion has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

For what it's worth, all of the stud dog owners I know, have various dogs, some used, some not, and they *generally* get on. I expect that can differ within different breeds, some will be more laid back than others.

I don't know about an initial stud fee, but with Labs a free return is offered if the bitch doesn't take as norm, but the stud fee is paid up front. Also, with show dogs, a second visit is usually the norm, not so much with working bred dogs, from what I've heard of different stud dog services.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 01:34 PM
Lumikoira's Avatar
Pet Forums Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 160
Lumikoira is on a distinguished road
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeping_Lion View Post
I don't know about an initial stud fee, but with Labs a free return is offered if the bitch doesn't take as norm, but the stud fee is paid up front. Also, with show dogs, a second visit is usually the norm, not so much with working bred dogs, from what I've heard of different stud dog services.
Within our own breed (and some others I know) the stud fee (price of a puppy) is paid on the day (you could choose to take pick of litter instead) with a second visit/mating the following day or 2 days later (depending on pre-mate test results) If the bitch doesn't take, you can just try again the following season. With the French boy we used last time we were told if there were only 1 or 2 puppies we could go back again for half price for a second mating if we wanted to.

Good luck!
__________________
Lappy Days

Louise

www.lumikoira.com
www.dogstostay.com
ww.com/lumikoira
ww.com/dogstostay
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-12-2011, 02:03 PM
swarthy's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: By the sea
Posts: 4,456
swarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond reputeswarthy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Using my dog at Stud dog?

I was given a tip about unproven stud dogs - no stud fee to change hands on the first litter until the bitch is confirmed in whelp - then hand all the paperwork over.

I wish you luck - my boy is three (and yes, Fully health tested before anyone asks) and we have been trying to mate with a health tested bitch for the last couple of days - it would be hilarious if it wasn't so frustrating - we've even shipped in an experienced stud handler to help - the bitch is rampant - I've honestly never seen anything like it - she backs him into corners - when he's had enough she starts sniffing his bits and huimping him - my boy knows exactly what he needs to do - but we just cannot get a tie - we have one final visit tonight to see if the bitch is still "fresh" and then from there we just have to wait - but what an interesting journey it's been

Neither dog is particularly keen on human interference - which can make life difficult !!!

Temperament wise it is early days if you want to include the tie - but he's still the same laid back dude he was beforehand - and when he's had enough starts playing with the ball or the teddy
dexter and Sleeping_Lion like this.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Sponsored Ads


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All posts made on this forum are NOT monitored.
All times are GMT. The time now is 04:11 PM.


PetForums is part of the Pet Media group of websites including | Pets4Homes | PetsLocally


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2