i have a male shih tzu but wish to get a female with the intention of breeding them before spaying her, can i keep them in seprate rooms whilst the female is in heat until i wish to breed them or will this affect the males temperment

Hi, I can imagine that it would affect his temperament quite a lot! Dogs can pick up the scent of an in season bitch from some distance, keeping her in a shut room in the same house is not going to fool him!

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Male dogs can smell a female in season from a long way off!, he will know she is there and in all honesty its not fair and it will drive him bonkers!

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My collie used to be a pain in the backside if there was a bitch in season in the area. Never went off his food or tried to escape but he'd be outside sniffing the air constantly. And the bitch could be several blocks away!

Room on the bench for another? Can I bribe you with cookies if not?

I suggest you may need to a lot of research before making that kind of decision, there are a few very knowledgeable people on here who would be able to answer any queries, but it's not a case of just having one dog & buying a dog of the opposite sex & making puppies, there's much much more to consider
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I have no experience with breeding but I think it would be very unfair to do this on both dogs. People must do it but I am not sure how and maybe somebody will be able to give personal experience. Please be warned people here feel very strongly about ethical breeding and there have been many threads on similar subjects. Please consider why you are thinking of breeding and the dangers involved.




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Yes, it is more than possible to keep entire dogs and bitches together in the same house, takes a bit of work when needing to seperate them and more than a litlte patience to put up with howling males, but it is possible and happens up and down the country. A male that has been to stud even just once can change, my boys are both much more 'up on their toes' and I know they would fight another male for the 'rights' to an in-season bitch.

Your comment on breeding though, here we go again..........................

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It can be done, but it isn't easy! Some dogs will pine, not eat and howl/bark through the whole of the bitches season, which could be 3 weeks! You won't know what your dog will be like until it's too late! You might have to send your dog to stay with someone else or to kennels.

The other thing is your dog and bitch might not suit each other for breeding. You won't know until all health tests have been done and she is fully mature. Also some dogs won't mate a bitch they live with.

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I'll second this, 3 weeks or so of a determined male howling & whining & all the 'fun' of keeping them separate while the girls were in season, this was before Bob was old enough to be neutered & it was tough

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A Dog can be sent loopy by a bitch in season from good distances away, and it can really effect their behaviour. A female doesnt even need to be present,
a male dog knows from the scent left in a bitches urine. Male dogs will suddenly fight other dogs they are usually fine with if a bitch in seasons about, or they even get a scent. I know severl males who are models of obdience, bitch just in the area on heat, they have to be kept on a lead as they will take off and wander, ones have jumped fences to get to an in season bitch. So you can imagine what two on the same property will do.
It can really effect their temprements after too, one fellow dog walker I know an ex dog of hers escaped and mated with a bitch, and he was a forever pain in the backside after humping every dog in sight and his general temprement changed she said too.

I would also think very long and hard perhaps about breeding in general, its not what its cracked up to be, and can be stressful, time consuming, messy and very expensive. Plus if you dont know what your doing it can result in the death of the bitch and pups. Also there are so many puppies and dogs in breed rescues, dogs homes etc now, (most are so full they have a waiting list unless dire emergencies) Its amazing too that the rescues are now full of pedigrees as well as the cross breeds and mongrels dogs homes and shelters were always associated with in the past.

Im sure if you do go ahead you will go into it responsibly, but some people dont think it through properly.

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