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Re: So you really want to breed?

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Wow, so they swab the dogs cheek and they can tell what colours the dog carries?
I hope so! In this instance, the test is specifically for yellow, so I won't know anything other than if she carries yellow; it's not to check if she's dilute for examle.

I've never done one before, so I'll keep the thread updated with how it's done, the progress and results
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Re: So you really want to breed?

Wow, sound stupid but it so clever what they can do now a days. Does the same rule apply across all breeds, so for example Lexi is a dark brindle but her sister was red and her brother fawn, could you have her tested to see if she carried red for example? I obviously have no reason to ever do this, just wondered?
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Wow, sound stupid but it so clever what they can do now a days. Does the same rule apply across all breeds, so for example Lexi is a dark brindle but her sister was red and her brother fawn, could you have her tested to see if she carried red for example? I obviously have no reason to ever do this, just wondered?
I've no idea tbh, I'd have to look at the specific tests available for staffies, should be easy enough to find out:

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Re: So you really want to breed?

haha more luck than management, but you can test for the red/fawn colour, you can also test for solid colour vs brindle and pied and you can test for the 'mask' gene too. How interesting I just assumed with pups you got what you got to a certain extent.
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haha more luck than management, but you can test for the red/fawn colour, you can also test for solid colour vs brindle and pied and you can test for the 'mask' gene too. How interesting I just assumed with pups you got what you got to a certain extent.
You do to a certain extent - but knowing the mixes of genes the dog carries can give you an indication of what you will get.

Black carrying yellow and chocolate to a dominant chocolate will produce just black and chocolate all the blacks carrying chocolate and some of the pups carrying yellow - the litter split should be 50/50 - and it was on my first litter (B carrying chocolate to chocolate) - my second litter (BYC to Chocolate) produced more chocolates than blacks

Statistically, by knowing what colours the dogs carry, you can 'guestimate' what you are likely to get in a litter - but of course, mother nature likes to throw us the odd surprise

One litter (not mine) - BYC to chocolate carrying yellow produced all yellow puppies

Another litter (again not mine) BYC to BYC produced all black puppies.

Yellow to yellow will always produce yellow

Chocolate to chocolate will only ever produce chocolate (and yellow if both parents carry yellow - any yellows from such a pairing will have liver pigment.

I can't tell you anything about other means of coat colour inheritance - but where testable for, there will probably be patterns of who can produce what dependent on what colour the parents are and what colours they carry.
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I *think* she's showing signs of a bit of pinkish discharge tonight, will check a bit more thoroughly in better light in a little while
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I *think* she's showing signs of a bit of pinkish discharge tonight, will check a bit more thoroughly in better light in a little while
If she is doing things by the book, she should be ready to stand around the 19th. What did I tell you!!
I hope you do have a contingency plan for Queen Rhuna.
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If she is doing things by the book, she should be ready to stand around the 19th. What did I tell you!!
I hope you do have a contingency plan for Queen Rhuna.
I know, don't I just know it, she could have left it until Friday to start showing signs, but no, madam HAS to scupper Rhuna's potential show debut success, possibly
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I know, don't I just know it, she could have left it until Friday to start showing signs, but no, madam HAS to scupper Rhuna's potential show debut success, possibly
Could Andrew not take her down? Or Heather even?? I hope you realise, you have spoilt mine and Anna's plans for the 19th now!!!
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Could Andrew not take her down? Or Heather even?? I hope you realise, you have spoilt mine and Anna's plans for the 19th now!!!
If I'd had a cup of tea, it would have been spat all over the laptop then! Andrew, take Rhuna to a *show*

Ummm, no, I'm just gonna have to hope that Tau's ideal dates fall either side of the 19 Feb, by my calculations, if she's in proper tomorrow, it should be the 18 and 20 Feb judging from where she's been with her previous seasons, but the premate test will really tell me more accurately.
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