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Old 21-02-2009, 01:42 PM
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Re: Prague Ratter (Pražský Krysařík)

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I'm desperately looking for a Prague Ratter puppy in UK.
does anyone know if there are breeders in UK/Ireland? I was going to import one from Czech Rep but I don't wanna put it in quarantine because of this stupid UK law.
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I know what you mean, I wouldn't want that either, or for my puppy to be 6 months old by the time it comes over. Keep a lookout on this forum, if we can a few more interested parties we might be able to get a breeder to bring a pregnant lady over...
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Old 22-02-2009, 11:49 AM
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I know what you mean, I wouldn't want that either, or for my puppy to be 6 months old by the time it comes over. Keep a lookout on this forum, if we can a few more interested parties we might be able to get a breeder to bring a pregnant lady over...
It's a possibility, but it is against FCI rules to move a pregnant female from its home.
I have had the same thoughts as well as I travel frequently to the UK, but then I would need somebody to adopt the female.

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It's a possibility, but it is against FCI rules to move a pregnant female from its home.
I have had the same thoughts as well as I travel frequently to the UK, but then I would need somebody to adopt the female.

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Sorry for the silly question but why would you need someone to adopt the female? she could go back to the country of origin within PETS without problems.I reckon Prague Ratters don't have more than 3 puppies per time and I guess the future buyers would be even willing to pay for the transport back. I am seriously interested
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I know what you mean, I wouldn't want that either, or for my puppy to be 6 months old by the time it comes over. Keep a lookout on this forum, if we can a few more interested parties we might be able to get a breeder to bring a pregnant lady over...

Kajsa, it is even worse, cos the puppy would be 10 months old on arrival in UK. It has to be at least 3months old for the anti rabies, after that you have to wait a month for the blood test and only from the good result of the blood test you start the 6 months quarantine, so it's really the case that you don't enjoy at all the dog when it is a puppy Thanks for your reply. let me know if you've got news. Mery
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Old 23-02-2009, 11:44 AM
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Sorry for the silly question but why would you need someone to adopt the female? she could go back to the country of origin within PETS without problems.I reckon Prague Ratters don't have more than 3 puppies per time and I guess the future buyers would be even willing to pay for the transport back. I am seriously interested
Like I said before "The thought has crossed my mind", but as a member of FCI I have to follow a lot of rules and regulations.

1/ Pregnant female is not allowed to be moved. I do not want to move the female until I know that she is pregnant, and you can't see that for sure until the females pregnancy has gone over 50 days, and then it would be too late to know if the female is pregnant. Before 50 days it's just guesswork.

2/ Please correct me if I'm wrong... The birth must take place in the females Kennel to be able to keep the breeding stations name and to be issued pedigrees. Here is a big problem, as the breed is still not recognized in the UK, I would have to get export pedigrees in my country where the breed is recognized.

I do not excactly know how to do this, but it looks like I have to bring both male and female to the UK, where they can be mated and wait first 9 weeks for the pregnancy and then another 10 weeks for the pups to be sold. And then I'm not to sure how this would correspond to all the legislations of FCI regarding issuing of pedigrees.
All in all this would mean that the dogs would have to stay for at least 20 weeks (5 months)
In this case it would be better if someone would buy grown-up dogs and start breeding in the UK.

Maybe I'm wrong with these assumptions, please correct me in that case.

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Peter,

you certainly have more experience than me with these regulations. I didn't even know you have to wait so long to know if a female is pregnant
And surely you must be right with the kennel name for the pedigree.
It looks like we have no hopes. I found a lady in Ireland who has got a male but the female is still missing unfortunately.
If anyone who has a female PR in UK/Ireland is willing to breed and sell a couple of puppies, I guess theres already a pair of buyers ready.

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Could the bitch not be scanned earlier?
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I didn't realise it was so complicated! Thanks for the input regarding this. I guess I'll have to reconsider perhaps getting an adult first.

If anyone gets any news on this (finds out that there were hundreds of Prague Ratters running around in the UK already, for instance), do post a response to this thread!
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COuld you get an adult female and then use a visiting male from abroad?
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Could the bitch not be scanned earlier?
It can be scanned by ultra sound or X-Ray
You can never be 100% sure with ultra sound. I have seen cases where they thought that there were pups, but when it was time there was nothing

With X-Ray you have to wait at least 50 days for enough calcium to be produced in the pups skeleton, otherwize you won't hardly see anything
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