Pet Forums Community

Go Back   Pet Forums Community > >

Dog Breeding Discuss all topics related to responsible dog breeding. Including help and advice on dog breeding issues regarding the mating process, pregnancy issues, post birth issues and all other related topics.

Registered users don't see this ad - Register Now (It's free!)
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 17-05-2011, 06:26 PM
SwanseaTrainer SwanseaTrainer is offline
Pet Forums Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Swansea, South Wales
Posts: 6
SwanseaTrainer is on a distinguished road
Big dog, small bitch ... ?

I have no intention of breeding however the breeders will know this answer better than anyone so here goes.

I have an unaltered male doberman x collie, and until now we've had other males and spayed bitches in with him without a problem. Last week however, the owner of an unaltered Yorkie bitch surrendered her to us as our dogs get on like siblings and keep each other busy playing near 24/7. Both are about 1.5 yrs old.

It's just occurred to me however that I first met the Yorkie about 6 months ago and then she was in season... which means she's due.

My automatic thoughts were more along the lines of my dog being protective of her, and her being walked on leash away from parks etc. (there is no way she will stay indoors for 12 hours let alone 3 weeks!). But I never considered the possibility of a mating here. Now a breeder may tell me I'm being stupid, there's no chance she'd let him/he wouldn't be able to/he wouldn't fit etc... but I realise this would be a life/death mistake if they somehow manage.

The male looks like a lurcher with his long legs and deep chest. Somewhere between a whippet and a greyhound in size. The Yorkie bitch is small for a full Yorkie, but only just.

Is there even the slightest possibility they could accidentally? mate?

Spaying and neutering (the obvious solution) is already on the cards, but not something I can do at the moment so won't get there in time for this season.

Oh wonderful web people... what say you?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 17-05-2011, 06:30 PM
Nicky10's Avatar
Nicky10 Nicky10 is offline
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Belfast
Posts: 20,718
Nicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond reputeNicky10 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

There is a possibility and it could be fatal to the little yorkie internal injuries etc. Keep them separate while she's in season could you get someone else to watch your male?
__________________
"A dog is not "almost human," and I know of no greater insult to the canine race than to describe it as such."
John Holmes

Owned by Buster cairn terrier mix and Leo netherland dwarf mix bunny
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 17-05-2011, 06:45 PM
Stellabella's Avatar
Stellabella Stellabella is offline
Pet Forums Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Swansea
Posts: 882
Stellabella is a jewel in the roughStellabella is a jewel in the roughStellabella is a jewel in the roughStellabella is a jewel in the rough
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

Is it just the one entire male she's likely to be in contact with? However you do it, she needs to be kept separate - preferably in different homes! It would be much easier and safer if she was spayed...
__________________
Stella, Louis and Asha
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 17-05-2011, 07:48 PM
Tanya1989 Tanya1989 is offline
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Midlands
Posts: 7,617
Images: 3
Tanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

Yes it is entirely possible that a mating could happen, and quite possibly would seriously injure the bitch if not cause a fatal injury. If you doubt you can keep them separate, it might be worth putting one in kennels, preferably the dog to prevent the kennels having an accident.
__________________
SOMETIMES YOUR KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR IS MERELY AN IDIOT WRAPPED IN TINFOIL
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 17-05-2011, 07:52 PM
archiebaby's Avatar
archiebaby archiebaby is offline
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: on a diet !!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 5,847
Images: 3
archiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud ofarchiebaby has much to be proud of
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

most definately they could mate they dont know the difference in size , its a in season female and un neutured dog, so they would do what comes naturally to them
__________________
[IMG][/QUOTE][/IMG]
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18-05-2011, 09:47 AM
SwanseaTrainer SwanseaTrainer is offline
Pet Forums Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Swansea, South Wales
Posts: 6
SwanseaTrainer is on a distinguished road
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

Bu**er!

Thanks for your replies. Separation it is. I don't know how we'll cope, she's the most energetic dog I've ever known and my dog's company is the only thing that keeps her (and us) sane between walks. I'll see if I can fast-track a spaying. I don't want all of the other responsibilities and stresses which come with an unaltered female, especially this little flirt.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 18-05-2011, 03:11 PM
Tanya1989 Tanya1989 is offline
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Midlands
Posts: 7,617
Images: 3
Tanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanseaTrainer View Post
Bu**er!

Thanks for your replies. Separation it is. I don't know how we'll cope, she's the most energetic dog I've ever known and my dog's company is the only thing that keeps her (and us) sane between walks. I'll see if I can fast-track a spaying. I don't want all of the other responsibilities and stresses which come with an unaltered female, especially this little flirt.
I'd advise against this. Her hormones are peaking and there is a risk that if you spay now (just before her season) her pituitary gland will continue to produce such high levels of hormone. The ideal time is smack in the middle of seasons when blood supply to the uterus is at its lowest, and the hormones are relaxed again. Only would I have an emergency spay this close to her season.

Like I mentioned above, why don't you have one of the dogs kennelled? Or send the boy to a family friend.
__________________
SOMETIMES YOUR KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR IS MERELY AN IDIOT WRAPPED IN TINFOIL
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 19-05-2011, 05:50 PM
SwanseaTrainer SwanseaTrainer is offline
Pet Forums Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Swansea, South Wales
Posts: 6
SwanseaTrainer is on a distinguished road
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

How soon before is too short? I've done the maths and the 25th of next month is exactly 6 months after she finished her last season, so we're at least 1 month away (by statistics) but probably more...? We have a very good relationship with our vet so may try to wangle a 50% now 50% later deal or similar. If spaying is a problem, perhaps a fast track neutering would be better. We still have the issues outside, but inside we're able to continue as normal.

One alternative was to keep an eye on them and if they do mate, get her spayed on insurance... however after reading more into the damage he could cause her trying, it's completely out of the question!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 19-05-2011, 09:41 PM
vizzy24's Avatar
vizzy24 vizzy24 is offline
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 3,350
vizzy24 has a spectacular aura aboutvizzy24 has a spectacular aura aboutvizzy24 has a spectacular aura aboutvizzy24 has a spectacular aura about
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

The insurance will not over anything to do with breeding, you will just be putting her at risk. I would suggest getting your boy neutered.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 20-05-2011, 07:45 AM
Tanya1989 Tanya1989 is offline
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Midlands
Posts: 7,617
Images: 3
Tanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond reputeTanya1989 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Big dog, small bitch ... ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by vizzy24 View Post
The insurance will not over anything to do with breeding, you will just be putting her at risk. I would suggest getting your boy neutered.
Bearing in mind, that he could still be fertile for 6 weeks or more and is still likely to have the urge to after such a short amount of time. Unfortunately its not guaranteed to stop his urges around an in season bitch, and probably unlikely to have taken effect if its only a month til she comes in season.

If you can't GUARANTEE that the two will never meet (especially if you have children or absent minded people living in the house) I would have your boy kennelled or at a relatives house during the month of the season.

Remember; stopped bleeding doesn't mean the end of the season!
__________________
SOMETIMES YOUR KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR IS MERELY AN IDIOT WRAPPED IN TINFOIL
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Sponsored Ads


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All posts made on this forum are NOT monitored.
All times are GMT. The time now is 04:49 PM.


PetForums is part of the Pet Media group of websites including | Pets4Homes | PetsLocally


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v1.1.7 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.2.8 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.