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Natik · #21 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 11:41 AM

Just a question about the pugs....

I found this statement online: "In Pugs, judges look for the one with the flattest face. Sometimes it is so squashed it means the dog has real problem breathing. "

If thats what the judges look for, doesnt it mean if u try to breed a healthy breathing pup that it will cost u a possible loss of wins?

I dont understand how u would try to improve the breathing problems there?

cav · #22 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Natik

Just a question about the pugs....

I found this statement online: "In Pugs, judges look for the one with the flattest face. Sometimes it is so squashed it means the dog has real problem breathing. "

If thats what the judges look for, doesnt it mean if u try to breed a healthy breathing pup that it will cost u a possible loss of wins?

I dont understand how u would try to improve the breathing problems there?

I carnt answer this but if i owned pugs i would not want a dog with breathing problems i would want a healthy one

Natik · #23 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cavrooney

I carnt answer this but if i owned pugs i would not want a dog with breathing problems i would want a healthy one

The same here...but are there any pugs without breathing problems availbe?
As as far as i know this is something which cant be tested.

cav · #24 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Natik

The same here...but are there any pugs without breathing problems availbe?
As as far as i know this is something which cant be tested.

Im not sure on this either but defo not heard of a test available but maybe a member with pugs will answer this question

Ladywiccana · #25 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 12:04 PM

I would imagine jan, that if any breeders have these dogs, and like you said there are many breeds with health issues!

I would like to think that breeders continue breeding to try and rectify the problems and to get the breed healthy again! Is this possible i wonder?

This thread isnt meant to cause offence to breeders as we all know you look after and have your dogs tested regularly!

Good point raised Jan!

#26 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ladywiccana

I would like to think that breeders continue breeding to try and rectify the problems and to get the breed healthy again! Is this possible i wonder?

Of course it's possible,there is nothing wrong in using a Carrier dog to a Clear if the gene pool is small,test for the condition and use a Clear from that mating to further the lines,then you can start breeding clears to clears and eventually eliminate the carriers,therefore eliminating the disease or condition from future generations,so in years to come the condition would not exsist within that breed.

Natik · #27 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 12:26 PM

but there are some breeds for which tests don't exist...like the pug for example. How can this condition be eliminated then?
I dont mean to offend any pug owners/breeders. Im just interested and curious.

Ladywiccana · #28 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sallyanne

Of course it's possible,there is nothing wrong in using a Carrier dog to a Clear if the gene pool is small,test for the condition and use a Clear from that mating to further the lines,then you can start breeding clears to clears and eventually eliminate the carriers,therefore eliminating the disease or condition from future generations,so in years to come the condition would not exsist within that breed.

Well sallyanne that sounded sensible enuf to me! Like i said i cant really comment too much on breeding as i am not a breeder!

#29 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Natik

but there are some breeds for which tests don't exist...like the pug for example. How can this condition be eliminated then?
I dont mean to offend any pug owners/breeders. Im just interested and curious.

I'm not sure to be honest,I'm not too familar with Pugs so you would need a Breeder of them to answer that one

JANICE199 · #30 (**permalink**) 01-10-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Natik

but there are some breeds for which tests don't exist...like the pug for example. How can this condition be eliminated then?
I dont mean to offend any pug owners/breeders. Im just interested and curious.

i think you and i are thinking the same thing..and i personaly dont see how they can get rid of this breathing problem,otherwise why havent they?

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