hi I'm thinking of studding out my Rottwieler x pittbull, any advice would be appreciated.

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People breed for different reasons ! and because i dont show does that make me any worse a breeder than sombody that does!? i dont think so! Like i have said before Not just my granddad but my dad have all owned and bred bull terriers at one time or another! so i would say whats the difference in buying a dog from me or a breeder that shows !? none thats what! are my dogs kc ? yes! would i take a puppy back if i had to ? yes ! I am sick and tired of people looking down there noses claiming the moural high ground and calling breeders like me a backyard breeder all because i dont choose to show ,when some of these so called show breeders are charging £2000 a pup out of a 8 pup litter ! weather you love showing or owning or both even, You wont be breeding for free will ya ,so please just cut the BULL SH*T!

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LMAO.

im sticking around now

Holy cow batman no comments itsa miracle

If you do not show then I am curious to know how you know you are breeding to the standard. What point of reference have you, how do you research what dogs are producing to what bitch.

How do you judge a potential stud dogs temperament or shortlist a number of dogs for comparison.

You cannot breed quality animals in isolation.

The shows are where you can see a representative number of dogs and their relatives from which to choose or compare breeding stock.

Do you health test your dogs, Hips and hearing come to mind, not sure about eye disease or health issues.

I would love to know how to breed good dogs without the cost of attending events where the breed can be objectively compared to other breeders efforts. I'd save a fortune, but would also Miss out on sharing knowledge and the opportunity of spending time with others with the same passion for dogs and my breed in particular.

well said!

because when i do use a stud i go to the top breeders who go to most of shows in the uk ! but if i wanted to i could use my own stud who has 26 champions in his bloodlines ! its up to me ! in an earlyer post you said you went on holiday to breed your dog ! how many puppys paid for that trip !? i wouldent use just any stud ! and as for You cannot breed quality animals in isolation,stop talking out your pie hole mate its getting boring ! Dont asume that because i dont choose to show dont mean i have never been to a show ! I know most of the top bull terrier kennels breeders whom i would have a choce of stud dog to pick from ! Please no more bull sh*t most on here are sick of it !

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Sorry I didn't go on holiday to mate my bitch I travelled to the wilds of Finland and stayed at the Stud owners house. Luckily enough the £1750 that it cost in flights and stud fee was not wasted, but I still made a loss on the litter, and it was a decent size litter of 7. I took a big gamble taking a maiden bitch over for the right days, as flights had to be booked as soon as she came in season.

Unfortunately for me most of the litter were male! I had promised a show potential puppy to a new exhibitor starting in the breed in Scotland where all the old breeders had died out. So she got the best of the two bitch pups, and at 11 months won the RCC at the Last Championship show of last year.

My own bitch turned out very leggy and will not do anything much in the ring until she is fully mature and grows into herself.

The 5 generation pedigree has just 14 non champions out of 62 ancestors. the first 3 generations have just two untitled dogs. Yet that won't make my pup a champion, her sister maybe, but not her.

She has qualities I can use and in fact her legginess will offset the tendency in some lines to get a little dumpy with maturity. Unless I know/learn what I am doing and mate her to the right dogs the number of champions in her pedigree will be of little use to me.

I can't rely on the pedigree alone, and of course I could, do now and have in the past taken advice from some of the top breeders, but surely a breeder aims to develop their own knowledge and talent for selecting breeding stock?

In the first or second generation your reaping the results of other breeders decisions, after that it is your own choices that determine the outcome more.

You admit yourself that the shows are needed in order to compare and prove the quality of the dogs against the standard and each other, but you would choose to have someone else do the groundwork.