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Old 25-09-2008, 01:22 AM
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hi please can anybody tell me the best age to start using my male as a stud he is 5mths old & he has champion line in him & the vet has given him the all clear & he is a great example of the breed
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hi please can anybody tell me the best age to start using my male as a stud he is 5mths old & he has champion line in him & the vet has given him the all clear & he is a great example of the breed
He is far too young as of yet he would need to be at least a 12 month old, and have all the necessary health testing carried out, I am afraid Champion lines mean nothing as to whether he is a good example or not, the best way to get your boy out there and to be seen is to do some showing with him and be assessed by people who know the pug breed inside out and back to front, prove him in the show ring to be a good example of his breed.

I had a dog here who had the most fantastic pedigree, on paper he should have bee a Champion himself, but, he was one of the worst examples of the breed that walked this earth, was never shown and only competed in Obedience.
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Hi Emma - just a query - you seem to have two young pups that you have bought with a view to using them for stud. I kow Tashi has replied to you on both of your threads about the need for waiting until they are older, and getting them out to shows to see if they are good examples of the breeds - but you also need to find out about all the relevant health tests for each breed and make sure these dogs are healthy before you offer them for stud. Some of the tests - such as hip scoring - can't be done until they are much older.
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Good advice given from Tashi and Spellweaver Can I ask why you are thinking of studding out your 2 dogs?
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Hi Emma - just a query - you seem to have two young pups that you have bought with a view to using them for stud. I kow Tashi has replied to you on both of your threads about the need for waiting until they are older, and getting them out to shows to see if they are good examples of the breeds - but you also need to find out about all the relevant health tests for each breed and make sure these dogs are healthy before you offer them for stud. Some of the tests - such as hip scoring - can't be done until they are much older.
I agree with Tashi and Spellweaver you need to make sure these dogs are healthy before offering them for stud.
There are problems such as retinal atrophy (in its various forms) and hip dysplasia which are common to all dogs and I believe strongly that before any dog or bitch is used for breeding these minimum checks should be done. Then there may be breed specific conditions and possibly DNA tests for them.

For pugs in the UK (where very few have been hip scored) the breed mean score is 22 and in the US where figures are more readily available and a larger number has been hip-scored, over 62% of pugs are dysplastic and there is only one breed of dog worse. I have not looked up figures for Chi's but if you google for OFA you can do so.
A dog can't be hip-scored in the UK until it is at least one year old, so I'd say not to use them at stud before then, and only after one year old if the health checks are OK.

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pugs suffer loads of genetic health problems so getting him tested for these is really important, a general veterinary examination cant reveal if he is carrying something which could be inherited by any puppies he may sire.
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k.c will tell u over a year after health tests
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