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Old 29-01-2011, 08:10 PM
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Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

Do you think the stud owner should have so much responsibility towards pups they help produce? I always thought if need be they would try and help find home for pups if one falls through etc.. Because I know I would be like that and even take back one of the dogs when older if the bitches owner couldn't. But today I kind of had my eyes open I guess!

Someone I know let her dog be used at stud, pups born, stud fee paid but then 3 homes fall through. Other people on the waiting list had found other pups so it's time to try find homes. Breeder phones stud owner and she tells them 'There nothing to do with me I've got my money so they are your problem' Now if this was me I'd be helping the breeder find homes not telling her they have nothing to do with me because I would have helped bring those pups into the world!
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Re: Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

I think a stud owner should have responsibility to the puppies.
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Old 29-01-2011, 08:27 PM
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Re: Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

Absolutely the stud dog owner has a responsibility - and most of the stud dog owners I know direct people to these litters - either through word of mouth or via their website (or both) - and also I know I've directed people to litters where I know the stud dog owners.

Touch wood, I've never had to ask for the stud owners help in that respect - but all three stud owners have been there for me, as have the breeders I've bought pups from.
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Absolutely the stud dog owner has a responsibility - and most of the stud dog owners I know direct people to these litters - either through word of mouth or via their website (or both) - and also I know I've directed people to litters where I know the stud dog owners.

Touch wood, I've never had to ask for the stud owners help in that respect - but all three stud owners have been there for me, as have the breeders I've bought pups from.
I couldn't believe the way the person I know is like 'There nothing to do with me now I've got the money'. Seems to forgot they are really half her pups seeing as it's her dog is the sire. If it was me I'd be wanting to go see the pups etc but I suppose that's the difference between those wanting money and those who don't.
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Re: Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

A responsible stud dog owner would, but there are those who are only interested in a stud fee . Personally, I don't think they have the same responsiblity as a breeder - after all, it was the breeder's decision to breed and have a litter, not the stud owner's. But, a decent one would support the breeder and direct any enquiries their way.
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Re: Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

I think the stud owner does have some responsibility to the puppies that are produced! I can't believe the attitude of the stud owner If they really couldn't help for personal reasons or whatever then I suppose I'd understand but just to say "I've got my money, it's your problem" is disgusting.
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Re: Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

I have always passed on puppy enquiries to people who've used my boys at stud.
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Re: Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

I'd have thought that helping the dams owner find new homes would be part of the stud service

The problem is that there is just so much greed in the world these days people just want their easy cash and then sod everyone else
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Re: Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

Technically, there is no obligation for the stud owner to have anything to do with the pups as what the breeder pays for is that of the stud service, i.e the sperm. HOWEVER, morally, for the stud owner to want to have nothing to do want to do with the pups is an outrage and I would be disgusted with any one that disregarded any responsibility they have for the pups, whe with out their involvement, the puppies would not have been brought into this world.

I, on the other hand, am the complete opposite. I even have it wrote in to my contract (stud contract), that if a puppy has to go back to the breeder and the breeder is unable to house, or rehome the puppy, then they are to get in touch with me and I shall house and rehome the puppy before they have to resort to rescue (god forbid a situation like this happens).

I pass on all puppy enquiries if I have no litter plans, to the breeder. I advertise the litter on my site (added bonus of people being able to see the progeny of my boys). Naturally, as a stud owner, I offer advice to the breeder throughout the entire period. I offer to sit in on interviews with prospective puppy buyers, particularly useful if they are a first time breeder, they often don't pick up on little things that more experienced people do.
I offer my whelping services/ assistance to them as well, again, often appreciated by a first time breeder.

I would rather be told by a breeder to "back off" rather than feel like I haven't offered enough help..... after all.... they have often handed over a lot of money, I like them to feel like they have had their money's worth, so to speak
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Re: Stud owner's responsibility towards pups?

I've always wondered about a stud owners resposibility. I would want everything to do with any of my "grand kids", after all if it wasn't for the stud owner the pups wouldn't have been born!

Why the breeder wasn't prepared for having to hang on to the pups, or take some back is also beyond me. Surely you take a pup/dog back regardless of age and don't breed unless you're prepared for the downs as well as the ups!
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