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Old 21-12-2010, 07:23 PM
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Re: Taking your bitch to stud what to expect...

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TBH I would find another stud. Would you have a baby with a man you couldn't trust?
Haha...that made me giggle.

Its not that I dont trust them its that I feel like everytime I try to talk to her or email her she short answers me and is....off with me.

What do I do because he's the perfect stud dog for her?

Maybe I should try contacting them again and see if she has time for me (but I will make sure its after christmas then that cant be a excuse).
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Re: Taking your bitch to stud what to expect...

You are lucky that you are in a very popular breed. You may have to travel further, but what about using a brother of the stud or other relative especially if the lines go so well together.
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Old 21-12-2010, 07:33 PM
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You are lucky that you are in a very popular breed. You may have to travel further, but what about using a brother of the stud or other relative especially if the lines go so well together.
The owner of the stud bred him and all his brothers are endorsed.

Hm.........

Its so much more easy if you have a tri bitch or a sable....tri boys that are all health tested, good for her, good in the show ring are rare.

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Old 21-12-2010, 07:45 PM
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Re: Taking your bitch to stud what to expect...

you can always encourage someone to health test their dog if you want to use at stud, you just pay for it to be done which is worth the price if you get a nice litter from a nice stud. The show ring isn't everything, there is an awful lot of tat being shown at the moment in my breed and being placed when better dogs might never see a ring.

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Old 21-12-2010, 07:47 PM
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you can always encourage someone to health test their dog if you want to use at stud, you just pay for it to be done which is worth the price if you get a nice litter from a nice stud. The show ring isn't everything, there is an awful lot of tat being shown at the moment in my breed and being placed when better dogs might never see a ring.

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Yes I am.

I want a potential show pup from any litter I breed so because Alaska has 1 ear thats slightly lower than the other I have to pick a dog that compliments her too.

Its all so confusing.
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Its all so confusing. [/QUOTE]

Welcome to breeding lol
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Re: Taking your bitch to stud what to expect...

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He is the right stud for her thats why I am so dead set on using him.
He has been used to her sisters to great results and his line compliments her perfectly.

They just never tell you how to deal with a stud owner who doesnt seem to have time for you.
If he's already been used on your bitch's sisters, then what are you adding to the gene pool? Just some food for thought! I can understand that as this is your first litter, then it would be a safe choice, but you are simply producing lines that have already been produced.

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Its not that I dont trust them its that I feel like everytime I try to talk to her or email her she short answers me and is....off with me.

What do I do because he's the perfect stud dog for her?
I wouldn't bother with a stud dog owner like this. The stud owner may be like this, or they may have doubts about this mating - regardless of the reason, I would want a stud owner that was positive about the mating.

What makes you think he's perfect for your bitch? Is it because you've been told and he has been used on her sisters? Have you looked at other stud dogs? I look at many (OK, I don't show, so my criteria may be different, but I am still looking for certain qualities) and then start narrowing it down. There is no one perfect stud dog for a bitch. I would do more research and look wider before I made my decision.
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Old 21-12-2010, 09:18 PM
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If he's already been used on your bitch's sisters, then what are you adding to the gene pool? Just some food for thought! I can understand that as this is your first litter, then it would be a safe choice, but you are simply producing lines that have already been produced.

I wouldn't bother with a stud dog owner like this. The stud owner may be like this, or they may have doubts about this mating - regardless of the reason, I would want a stud owner that was positive about the mating.

What makes you think he's perfect for your bitch? Is it because you've been told and he has been used on her sisters? Have you looked at other stud dogs? I look at many (OK, I don't show, so my criteria may be different, but I am still looking for certain qualities) and then start narrowing it down. There is no one perfect stud dog for a bitch. I would do more research and look wider before I made my decision.
Hey.

I want to be safe for the first litter as I do want a show potential pup and using other stud dogs we are less likely to know the outcome gene wise.

He was the stud I wanted to use from day 1 but his owner's lack of interest is the only thing putting me off.

There are only a hand ful of tri dogs that are doing well in the ring at the moment and the best tri dog in the country is her dad so hes off limits 2 other tri males that are doing well are her half brothers.

There is a import that I would like to use hes currently in kent but I am not sure yet because I would like a show potential pup.
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Re: Taking your bitch to stud what to expect...

Yes, I can understand why it would be a safe (and good ) option.

But look at it this way. You won't be mating her for a year. Yes, this dog could be the one (and you keep going with it), but use the time to look for others. Let's face it, if you take a second (or even third litter) from her, you won't be going back to the same stud so will need to look at other studs anyway.

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There are only a hand ful of tri dogs that are doing well in the ring at the moment and the best tri dog in the country is her dad so hes off limits 2 other tri males that are doing well are her half brothers.
I don't show, but am looking at competition dogs nonetheless, and I like to look outside the box. There may be differences with showing, but in my breed, there are good dogs out there than never get titles.

Just out of interest, why was he the dog you wanted to use from day 1?
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Old 21-12-2010, 09:38 PM
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Just out of interest, why was he the dog you wanted to use from day 1?
I met him at a show a few months before we got Alaska. Then we got her we knew we wanted to breed and contated his owner way back when but was told to contact her when Alaska was older even though I only wanted to discuss if she thought he was good for her too.

Then I contacted her again in July to let her know I was still interested was told again to come back when shes older...bumped into her at a show in october she said we were welcome to use him and then told me to contact her near the time.

I know the dog I want to use if I ever took a 2nd litter from Alaska. My mentors dog..hes pretty amazing but the two lines have never been crossed so we have no idea what the genetic effects would be like.
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