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a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

just browsing the adverts online (as you do!) and noticed a cross breed mum & crossbreed dad, had some pups, being nosy I emailed them as I really wanted to see what they would look like (i know im bad-sorry!) both mum/dad are GSD cross husky & it had a pic of them, the same age next to eachother...spitting image, so I asked if they were brother/sister as from the pic it really looked like it, and the answer was a big fat yes!!!

not a accident (like so many people say) but planned what problems would/could this cause future pups?
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Re: a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

didnt want to read and run, but would have thought it was a very bad idea, any genetic faults would be multiplied, even brother and sister matings are far too close for line breeding.
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Re: a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

I woulden't like the idea of dog bred closer than grandparents especially unhealthested ones. I know someone suggested letting Rusty mate with Maya, I told them where to go
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Re: a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

TBH probably very little problems in the F1 gen.... but if each sibling was to keep multiplying the problems with the breed as a whole would likely multiply!











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Re: a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

With the number of hereditary problems GSDs have and Huskys can have problems with eyes and because of bad breeding now as their popular there seems to be other things occuring. Any thing each are carrying whether it be affected or just a carrier is likely to come out as there is no genetic escape.
As its a double recessive genes.
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TBH probably very little problems in the F1 gen.... but if each sibling was to keep multiplying the problems with the breed as a whole would likely multiply!
But you are doubling up on any problems with BOTH breeds - and as the mating was that close - the potential for major problems would be higher than a brother / sister mating of either breed as pedigrees

Offspring from recessive gene carriers have a 50/50 chance on carrying the gene (or 25% of being affected if both parents are a carrier - even though the conditions of both dogs may not have been able to find a matching gene as a cross - in the next generation - you could well double up on those problems - insane
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Re: a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

thanks for the info, was quite shocked they said yes, they took the pics of the parents off and i cant find the advert now! was quite obvious that they were brother/sister really!

lets hope they dont sell 2 together!

i dont understand why i keep seeing so many gsd cross huskys for sale.
doesnt sound like a great cross, some are nice looking though.
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Re: a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

To make wolf like dogs maybe I've seen quite a few doing canix. I wouldn't do you can increase the risk of genetic problems being passed down. Course I'm sure some breeders will tell you it's perfectly ok
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Re: a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

Brother/sister mating or dad/daughter or mum/son mating

Would that have the same problems?

Any matings that close is a big NO NO
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Re: a brother/sister mating - what problems would it cause?

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TBH probably very little problems in the F1 gen.... but if each sibling was to keep multiplying the problems with the breed as a whole would likely multiply!
I do not agree.
The F1 generation will have problems.


You are breeding together two animals that are closely related ie brother and sister. They could therefore both be carriers of a deleterious recessive gene, and so will produce affected offspring "aa". The siblings are the Aa pairing in the above diagram.
If the gene is dominant then homozygous dominant individuals may be produced with very severe disease or it may be a lethal combination. Of course there are also immunity problems and all the other inbreeding issues too.
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