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Old 21-11-2010, 10:34 AM
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As with most breeds, there are enough problems without creating more.
No - which is why in mine I stipulate a measure of success in various different areas over and above the health requirements - but I do know of restrictions that have been lifted because things weren't laid out in black and white.
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Old 21-11-2010, 10:55 AM
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I knew nothing about endorsements until I bought Ferdie and saw it on his kc registration. I had already agreed I had no intention of breeding from him, as he had suffered a hernia, so I wasn't bothered. I totally agree with the idea, but does it actually stop anyone from going ahead and breeding then advertising pups as non kc registered because they are meant to be pets? I doubt it.

I think they should also be endorsed with restrictions for taking them abroad. I know someone who had endorsed her pups against being taken abroad, then the woman who bought him wanted to sell him to someone in Germany and asked for the restriction to be lifted. She refused.
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Old 21-11-2010, 11:07 AM
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I think they should also be endorsed with restrictions for taking them abroad. I know someone who had endorsed her pups against being taken abroad, then the woman who bought him wanted to sell him to someone in Germany and asked for the restriction to be lifted. She refused.
They can be endorsed "not eligible for Export Pedigree" - however, what a lot of people don't realise is this doesn't stop someone taking the dog abroad and registering it with an overseas kennel club - one of my pups is in France and has been shown over there with UK KC registration.

What is does stop unless I lift the restrictions is the dog being confirmed and obtaining full registration and being bred from legitmately in that country.

I think sdometimes what people forget, is once someone buys a pup - they have paid for it - and in reality - if the owner choses not to adhere to anything you have advised / recommended / requested - there isn't an awful lot of you can do about it
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All my pedigres have had the endorsements for breeding and Export Pedigrees, but as I have no intention of breeding or exporting them it did not bother me,

None of my pups came with a contract - but reading them on some breeder's websites would put me off getting a puppy from them as they are very strict
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I have to say I agree with Rocco - having said that - I've never had anyone take exception to the endorsements provided they are clearly explained and the requirements for lifting them written in black and white.

I don't advertise mine as endorsed - but do a lot of filtering of puppy buyers first and then explain - I've never had anyone back out as a result of these - and all but a handful of my pups are now neutered.

I would imagine a lot of people won't even know what endorsements mean (and in the States it has a VERY different meaning if they may be trying to find out online) - not knowing could also create a lot more superfluous calls if they were advertised as endorsed.

Do the endorsements come with requirements for lifting them? is that made clear?
Yes my endorsements come with requirements for me to lift them and that is made very clear in my contract. I do realise, however, that maybe not everyone will stick to what is layed out in my contract. This part cannot be policed but all I can do is endorse my pups pedigrees.
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I only had the one litter and endorsed them, clearly explaining that they would not be lifted for breeding as the parents didn't have good health test results. This mating was not my doing BTW and knew nothing til seven weeks pregnant, a big shock I can tell you!

With seven boys and one girl I had the girl spayed before homing her and the last remaining boy neutered. I explained to the buyers why they shouldn't be bred from and all are now neutered, lovely families that we all keep in touch with. So far the only pup displaying health probs is the one I kept - Flynn - severe dysplasia, glad I kept him but two of the others are workers and two have on line blogs that i've been given the passwords for, so keep in track of their daily walks/activities. The other three are in wonderful family homes and all my buyers are now my friends.

I still fill up when I get pics and to this day still consider them mine, lol.

Would never have a litter again - the whole process cost me a forune and left me in emmotional turmoil when they left. Silly old goat!
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All my pedigres have had the endorsements for breeding and Export Pedigrees, but as I have no intention of breeding or exporting them it did not bother me,

None of my pups came with a contract - but reading them on some breeder's websites would put me off getting a puppy from them as they are very strict
Thats one of the reasons I liked my breeder so much she is Very strict and forth-coming, however she will asnwer all your questions and is happy to life endorsements if she is happy with you after a interview/meeting and if you do all required health tests, which should be done anyway if you want to breed. If people walk away from that then they are missing out on good pups more for me lol
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All our puppies are endorsed. Puppies sold to pet homes will never have their endorsments lifted. Puppies sold to potential breeding/showing homes have to abide by our contracts before we will lift them. Thats having all health tests done (and pass) that we state in the contract, the dog has to be 2 years old before we will lift, proven its self as a good example of the breed and the like.
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No - which is why in mine I stipulate a measure of success in various different areas over and above the health requirements - but I do know of restrictions that have been lifted because things weren't laid out in black and white.
As long as you have a contract or piece of paper which explains the reasons and ramifications of the endorsements signed by both parties before the puppy goes to its new home the KC will not lift the endorsements without the breeders agreement at all.
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