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Old 16-11-2010, 08:13 PM
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Re: Mongrel v pedigree

Cockapoo lover - What health tests did the parents have? Were they KC reg if so you can look on the kennel club page for the results to the health tests they had.

Would love to see or even hear about them.

I have to agree with what most of the people on here have said. Cockapoo is more like a name of a pedigree not cocker spaniel cross poodle which sounds like...well what it is...a cross.

Its pretty much a new thing since labradoodle came about...cross breed exsisted before then but they didnt have all these strange names with the £££££ price tag on them.
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Re: Mongrel v pedigree

There isn't really the variation between price and quality in crossbreeds as there is with pedigrees. For instance a well bred cocker from health tested parents is £700 but a badly bred unregistered one would be £350. A badly bred cocker cross poodle would be £700 and a well bred one from health tested parents would also be £700.

It's easy to see why some people choose to breed crossbreeds when they can put a cocker worth £350 to a poodle worth £350 and charge £700 for the pups, if those dogs were put to their own breed the pups would be worth £350 .
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Re: Mongrel v pedigree

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How rude and judgemental and quite frankly stupid are you!!!

My dogs were from health tested parents, wormed , de flead, 1st injections with records , pedigree info of parents, food supply, puppy pack. Advice given and ongoing and all sold!!!!!

Do not target all crossbreed owners in this way.

Why shouldn't my poodle crosses be the same as a pedigree the costs are the
same and BOTH parents are full PEDIGREES!!!!

I know a lot of cockapoo owners whose breeders are just as you describe the pedigree ones.

People like you make me sick.
Bit over the top isnt it considering i havent read any of your posts and have no idea who you are?

if you actually read it i said that as long as they are health testsed and they do the same as good ped breeders then thats OK, due to my past expereince, so i was infact agreeing with you

you sound extremly nasty and bitter, to have a go at people over forums that you have never met or even spoke to before, i feel extremly sorry for you
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Re: Mongrel v pedigree

there was a quiz on the link below about designer breeds but its down atm. Ill leave it on incase it goes back up.
It gives you images of both designer crosses and mongrels and crosses in rescues and asks you to guess which, not easy as they look the same. Goes to show people are forking out hundreds when theire must have "designer cross" may be sitting in a rescue close by

The Designer Dog breed quiz--can you tell which is which?

cookapoos etc ARE NOT BREEDS. To be a breed they must be true to a breed type and these crosses and their offspring are extremely variable.

Apparently Guide Dogs Victoria (Australia) attempted a poodle x labrador programme in the 1970s as allergen free dogs were needed, but the programme was abondoned because the offspring did not make consistent and predictable guide dogs. The present labradoodle craze was in fact started by Aussie puppy farmers for profit, many of you will have seen the state of some of these puppy farmers dogs and conditions.

Another worrying thing is the lie that crosses are healthier than pedigrees, what crap. In order for these crosses to have the so called "hybrid vigour" they would have to be bred from dogs with the right genetic material to start with. Any decent breeder wont sell their dogs to a breeder intending to cross them, so substandard dogs are often used instead. By doing so you increase the chance of these dogs being unsound and having a combination of the health problems within both breeds.

If people dont lie about their dogs, dont sell them for outrageous prices and health test then i have less of an issue.
However i still have a problem with breeding dogs for the sake of breeding them. I have only ever bred to keep a pup from my line for the showring and if i breed again it will be for the same reason, there is no other for me.
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Re: Mongrel v pedigree

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There isn't really the variation between price and quality in crossbreeds as there is with pedigrees. For instance a well bred cocker from health tested parents is £700 but a badly bred unregistered one would be £350. A badly bred cocker cross poodle would be £700 and a well bred one from health tested parents would also be £700.

It's easy to see why some people choose to breed crossbreeds when they can put a cocker worth £350 to a poodle worth £350 and charge £700 for the pups, if those dogs were put to their own breed the pups would be worth £350 .
good post! this is another concern many of these breeders will just be sticking dogs together dosent matter about their quality, they'll have no knowledge of conformation etc

breeding animals just to feed the pet market is a greedy and selfish reason to bring new life into the world imo.
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Re: Mongrel v pedigree

Important Rule regarding crossbreeds

can I just remind you all of the above
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