how come so many breeders dont both kc the pups?

ive always registered mine so im thinking either parents not registered or they have something to hide

Probably because they are endorsed, too old, too young, crossbreeds, had too many litters

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SOMETIMES YOUR KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR IS MERELY AN IDIOT WRAPPED IN TINFOIL

Or just think they can make a quick buck without spending too much..

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year well all sound like BYBs to me and should not be breeding

its sad that people use there pets to make money and my bet is most will end up in rescue

Bad isnt it

year it winds me up to the max

I've spoken with one breeder who solely produces pet puppies. I've seen both parents KC papers and they are not endorsed, ages are fine, even all necessary health testing has been done. The puppies are not registered because the breeder sees this as a deterrant for breeding.

Another breeder I know is exactly the same except the puppies are registered, but KC papers are withheld until the puppies have been spayed/neutered.

how do you know the paper work shown, is the paper work to the dog??

Its far from ethical imo..

You could argue that about anything though, surely.

How could you be sure that ANY paper work shown is the paper work to the dog or even pup that is supposedly registered?

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She bred both dogs herself. They shared a grandparent on their dam's side I believe, but otherwise completely unrelated.