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they do misidentify a few - well... 3 of 6, but we'll give them
LOOK LIKE huskies for partial credit KENNEL CLUB SHOW - British Pathe the ones in bold are the errors - Quote:
to see SUPER CLOSE-UPS: look under 'embed KENNEL CLUB...' - click on View as stills. set it for every: 1 sec - then click on any 1 still-shot and it will fill 2/3 of the screen. there are 16 stills per page, and more stills at the upper-right corner is clickable - just turn the pages of the 'album'. the "6 white fluffy dogs" = Samoyeds; they don't look very dissimilar except for being lighter in build overall, and with more moderate coat - just slightly smaller and a bit less poufy. the "Dalmatian" is a harlequin Great Dane! - a M teen-pup with natural ears; the close-up is a mature merle-Dane's face; he is cropped and has a butterfly-nose. notice the shorter crop, thicker ear, + shorter foreface [vs the long rectangular box of current-Danes, ahead of the eyes]; the "Boxer" is an English Bulldog - with a foreface, a real butt in proportion to fore, and more moderate forehand: less out-at-elbows, less exaggerated shoulder + skull width, more normal jaws/dentition.
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Re: Aug-1923 newsreel, 6 breeds [Crystal Palace dog-show promo]
The Bulldog was the same then as the correct Bulldogs are now. Its your pet bred bulldogs that create a bad name for the breed.
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like this one...?? Google Image Result for http://www.pets4homes.co.uk/pets4homes/home.nsf/C05FA007B4CDC24F802575EB0032A8B2/$file/small_Crufts-2008-CcBos-Winner-Available-For-Stud-1590.jpg or this one... ?? Google Image Result for http://www.sharonbull.com/crufts%20vhc%20RECORTE%20%5B640x480%5D.jpg or maybe this one... ?? Google Image Result for http://www.champbulldogs.com/dasa%20english%20bulldog%20puppy.jpg his call-name is Snaggletooth Avapal Dynamite - 'Thomas' Aged 7 months Winning Best Dog at the Sheffield and Leodensian Bulldog Open show 08 Google Image Result for http://www.afghansareus.co.uk/Gallery/photos/ronnie-best-male-best-puppy-male-.jpg At INT Show in Helsingør, in Denmark (CACIB) May 3-4, 2003. Get Bulldog Bestevaer V.H. Slaghek very promising and best puppy no. 2. Google Image Result for http://www.jacquella.com/buller4.jpg [the dog in the top-left photo, white face + red-fawn body, is the same dog.] http://www.jacquella.com/buller4.jpg - same dog, winning pose Google Image Result for http://www.kelloebulldogs.net/Crufts2007WinnerBOB.jpg Google Image Result for http://www.patdana.com/newsold/06-07/Freddy-Crufts-07%20(2)..jpg Google Image Result for http://www.seabright.nl/news08/2nd-open-bitch-crufts-2008.jpg Google Image Result for http://www.patdana.com/newsold/06-07/Freddy-Crufts-07%20(8)..jpg all have shorter legs from ground to heartgirth, they all have seriously-smashed faces with sub-ocular FOLDS, all have bigger heads, arms that appear to be pinned on at the shoulder vs integrated with muscle insertions, all have weeny butts and massy forehands, and all are F-A-T - unless i missed something? ready to be corrected, - terry |
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this one looks more like a dog, and less like a toad with teeth -
Google Image Result for http://bulldog.ab350.com/images/american_bulldog_pics_3.jpg IOW - this non-Champ American-Bulldog looks much as old-fashioned athletic Bulldogs once did - back when they could breathe, run vs waddle, didn't snore like chain-saws, and so on. way-back, when they didn't get wrinkle-dermatitis on their faces and in the folds of their necks... |
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Re: Aug-1923 newsreel, 6 breeds [Crystal Palace dog-show promo]
Conformation of the head is virtually identical, apart from the ear set on the "old" one is slightly higher, creating the illusion that the head is narrower. They still have the nose wrinkle and are still short nosed. The older one is slightly longer in the leg, but that is what bullie breeders (show) are aiming for now as the breed standard has changed slightly. If you were to look at a white modern day bullie and compare it to the bullie on the video clip it would be easier to see. The white chest that the pics from the "modern day" create the illusion that the chests are more broad, but if put side by side to a white bullie they are probably the same. I have a picture on my laptop of a friends bullie that was bred by one of the top bullie kennels in the WORLD (Ocobo/ Mystyle) and I will ask her if I can put it up.
I do agree that bullies (and 90% of all other breeds as well) are fatter today than they were at the time, but a fat dog is not down to poor breeding.
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Re: Aug-1923 newsreel, 6 breeds [Crystal Palace dog-show promo]
I'm with leashedforlife on this one, it seems that all modern Bulldogs are greatly changed from the white dog in the video. There definately are modern Bulldogs with profiles like this dog (who i'll bet actually has a muzzle, shame there isn't a shot of him from another angle) but they're not "Show Quality".
It would be interesting to see a show-bred Bulldog of today carrying a healthy weight!
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