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Old 22-09-2008, 08:10 AM
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Dogs affected by and carrying diseases are still permitted to compete in Kennel Club shows win the trophies
I have no problem with these dogs entering shows and enjoying the events,you can't tell by just looking at a dog in a show what diseases hereditary or otherwise they may be carrying.Why should a dog which has an hereditary condition be stopped from doing something which it enjoys ?

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and go on to breed the next generation.
Now this I have a major problem with,no dog with hereditary conditions should ever be bred from in my opinion.
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Oh so you allwatched this? i thought of everyone on this forum as i watched it and i was actually shocked. The breeding is even worse than i thought. I thought it was disgusting that Rhodesian Ridgebacks are culled if they dont have ridges even though the ridges is actually a genetic problem with their spine! It's amazing that this is allowed.
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This is why i breed cavadoodles they are very healthy.
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This is why i breed cavadoodles they are very healthy.
out of interest..what health tests do you have done on the poodles and cavvies?i havent asked that to pass any judgement thats not what i come on here for.
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This is why i breed cavadoodles they are very healthy.
How do you know?

Are the dogs you breed from hip-scored, eyechecked, MRI scanned, heart checked and DNA tested as appropriate? I hope you can say yes to every point, and assuming the results are OK, then once they have had their annual check up at the vets and got a clean bill of health, then yes you can say they are healthy.

Any dog can be eyetested and hip-scored. This is the minimum, together with a vet check for a healthy dog. Please post your results, it would be very interesting to see them.

My pair of ESS (male then female) hips 4/3 and 5/8, eyechecked - clear.
DNA tested for Fucosidosis, Progressive Retinal Atrophy cord 1 and Phosphofruckokinase Deficiency and are clear both genes in each case so their pups are genetically clear for these 3 conditions, and grandpups will never be affected either.
They are due to go for their annual vet check (and shots) by the end of the month and if all goes well, next week I'll be able to say they are very healthy.

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Re: Pedigree Dogs Exposed BBC2 next Tuesday

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Oh so you allwatched this? i thought of everyone on this forum as i watched it and i was actually shocked. The breeding is even worse than i thought. I thought it was disgusting that Rhodesian Ridgebacks are culled if they dont have ridges even though the ridges is actually a genetic problem with their spine! It's amazing that this is allowed.
Firstly - you really shouldn't believe everything you see on the television!

That is not to deny that some disturbing scenes were shown but this programme was sensationalist and did not reflect RR breeders accurately. Very, very few people cull ridgeless puppies. I certainly haven't and wouldn't and none of my friends have done or would do. I've had RRs for over 20 years - all are correctly ridged and very healthy. The ridge is not a problem with the spine. However, the RR can suffer from a condition called dermoid sinus - as can other breeds and indeed ridgeless RRs - but it is more common in RRs and Thai Ridgebacks. For more discussion on this, look back over this thread!
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The ridge is not a problem with the spine. However, the RR can suffer from a condition called dermoid sinus - as can other breeds and indeed ridgeless RRs - but it is more common in RRs and Thai Ridgebacks. For more discussion on this, look back over this thread!
It's probably worth restating that studies have shown that the ridge in Rhodesian Ridgebacks actually predisposes them to Dermoid Sinus.

Ridgebacks are the only breed where Dermoid Sinus is significant, and it's very rare in any other breeds (or indeed in Ridgebacks that don't have a ridge). The incidence in Rhodesian Ridgebacks is extremely high, and it's generally thought that around 10% will be born with a Neural Tube Defect such as Dermoid Sinus.

A recent Australian study found it to be even higher, occurring in 17% of Ridgebacks. However, they also found that it may be possible to reduce this to around 5% by the addition of high folate levels to the mother's diet.
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Re: Pedigree Dogs Exposed BBC2 next Tuesday

OK this thread is now going around in ever decreasing circles no-one appears to be listening to each others point of view just trying to make them in the wrong all the time I truly think it has run its course and moderating it is just taking much too much time
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