[QUOTE=spellweaver;244250]but with respect from what i saw it was like nazi breeding...as long as it look ok sod the consequencecs! i'm sorry if this offends but thats how i saw it.

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[QUOTE=spellweaver;244250]I'm sure there is plenty being done about it, not being in the know I honestly don't know. However, if a programe like this can increase awareness and educate people to look closer when they are buying a pedigree dog then surely thats a good thing? Not everyone is as internet active as others so the only way they find things out is through the media.

However, I do believe we are very much media driven now and channels like SKy News etc have meant that educational programs have lost some of the standards and are one sided. Thats just the way society is, every channel wants to be sensational and generate public interest.

For those who purchased a KC reg. pup, was it health tested? Oscar (toy poodle) was not tested but he is KC.

this is what the programme set out to do, obliterate all the good work done by the kc and good breeders so people just see the bad side of things. the programme maker has just admitted on radio 5 she set out to shock people with this programme

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My KC regd pup had all health checks done. But then I did LOTS of reserch before I chose my pup and breeder - but not everyone does.

They're cheaper to insure for one as they dont on average spend as much time at the vet as pedigrees and they are known to live longer on average

There must've been some research done for insurers to refer to, they wouldn't just do it willy nilly



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[QUOTE=JANICE199;244262]It doesn't offend me - you are entitled to your own opinion just as I am. It merely saddens me that you are told that this happens in one or two breeds, and were shown one or two bad breeders, and now you believe it as the gospel truth in all breeds and all breeders - ah well, such is the power of the media. They wanted to shock and they succeeded.

Press Release from the KC,
Kennel Club Defends Pedigree Dogs
19-Aug-08

The Kennel Club is aware that a BBC documentary, Pedigree Dogs Exposed, is due to air on Tuesday 19 August and will explore the issue of the health of pedigree dogs.

We have not seen the documentary, despite repeated requests and so cannot comment on its content. However, the Kennel Club did agree to participate in its making on the understanding that the programme would be balanced and fair and contribute to the Kennel Club’s primary objective to promote in every way the general improvement of dogs.

The number of healthy pedigree dogs is very high. Comparatively, pedigree dogs are healthier than the human population which suffers from some 4,000 different types of disease, compared to only about 400 in the dog population. Furthermore, around 90% of dogs will not suffer from health problems that have a detrimental impact on their quality of life – and that figure is improving, thanks to advances in science and the continued investment of time, care and money from the Kennel Club and responsible breeders.

The Kennel Club:

• Works directly and indirectly through funding research bodies, to develop health tests for pedigree dogs. The most common of these, hip scoring, has seen breeders invest £20 million in testing since the scheme began and the mean hip score across the top 20 most commonly tested breeds has reduced year on year, meaning the likelihood of these dogs suffering from hip dysplasia has significantly lessened. More and more DNA tests are being developed as the science becomes available.

• Encourages responsible breeding practices and the Accredited Breeder Scheme is a kite-mark of quality that was developed to ensure the breeding of healthy, well adjusted puppies. Accredited Breeders use all of the health tests required for their breed and will breed their dogs to ensure that they have the healthy characteristics that are incorporated within their breed standard. A common method of breeding is called line breeding, which is used to breed an animal for particular healthy characteristics. All responsible breeders have an intimate knowledge of the dogs that appear in pedigrees – and they use that knowledge to breed for positive traits in health and breed standard.

• Collaborated with Imperial College so they could analyse the level of ‘inbreeding’ in pedigrees and identify the genes involved in inherited disease in the future. Unsurprisingly, the inbreeding coefficients were high because of the very nature of pure-breeding populations and the fact that many decades of dog breeding have led to problems. It is clear from the research that mating close relatives (mother/sons, fathers/daughters etc) is now uncommon and not the reason for the high inbreeding coefficients.

• The Kennel Club would never put ‘looks’ above the health of pedigree dogs, and we actively discourage the exaggeration of features in any breed. The standards have been, and will continue to be amended when necessary to ensure the breeding of healthy, well conformed puppies; and dog show judges are educated to judge to those standards ensuring that dogs with obvious problems that could affect their quality of life do not win, and that the rewards go to fit, healthy dogs

Caroline Kisko, spokesperson for the Kennel Club, said: “We welcome any discussion that will help to improve the health and welfare of dogs and we hope that this documentary will focus on what is being done and what can be done in the future to ensure the good health of pedigree dogs ultimately becomes first class.

“We fully acknowledge that there are still some health problems that belong largely to a time when less was understood about animal health and we continue to work to eliminate them.

“As successive generations of pedigree dogs come through – and with the investment of time, care and money that the Kennel Club and breeders are putting into education, improved testing and carefully planned breeding programmes - the number of healthy pedigree dogs, which is currently high, will improve even further.”

That programme was rediculous and insulting..

I agree that the kennel club should make it compulsary to test the dogs for th problems that effect the breed.. and if they test positive they cannot be bred but guess what the kennel club are more interested in their wallet

conversely they did not show breeders who do all the tests and dont breed from unhealthy dogs

year all mine was and i only breed from dogs that are clear..shame alot of breeders dont bother