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Re: Singleton Puppies
I have never helped anyone deliver a singleton and never know anyone who had one, so this was a shock when I was told about what can and cant happen by leashedForLife. I think it would be good for other members to know JUST IN CASE.
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Re: Singleton Puppies
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I must admit I never had a singleton and too read your post really made sense but probably would not have ever thought about some. ie pushing the pup off the nipple....I would never have thought of that. I too think this should be made into a sticky
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here is a thread from awhile ago, this solo-baby was a scare -
[link below]... his maiden-mum would not nurse him or tend him at all, which can happen especially with primapara (1st-time mums) as they have not done this before - AND cuz the solo-pup does not trigger the same intensity of oxytocin, the bonding-hormone that makes us tend, befriend, defend another person... a single pup does not secrete enuf/cause mum to produce enuf hormone (just like the problem with triggering labor - strength in numbers ) a whole litter of hungry, squeaking, seeking, blind pups would normally excite intense curiosity in a bitch, even a 1st-timer, and sniffing + licking usually follow - the stimulation of puppy NURSING helps to squeeze-out more oxytocin, gets the uterus contracting to reduce bleeding + get the next pup out, and creates the glue-like bond between dam + infants. no oxytocin? no bonding. too little oxytocin? the dam walks away when the pup has not finished suckling, does not keep the pup warm, fails to stimulate the ab/gen area for voiding, etc... and the pup can die, either chilling or toxemia. Pet Forums Community - View Single Post - yorkie pup just born in THIS case - the breeder had another F who had just whelped 4 pups; she put the solo-pup in with them, and his foster-mum took him right on... meanwhile, his ditzy young mother was galloping about like a loony, utterly disinterested in her only child. better living thru chemistry, OXYTOCIN rules! an alternate would be to feed mum while she lay in the whelping-box with the room-door closed, have Pup nurse while she is eating, and let the **nursing stim** trigger the oxytocin - which also brings more milk down. washing mums breasts with a warm, clean washcloth, and firm strokes, is another safe stumulation - NO soap tho, just clean warm water. ![]()
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terry pride, APDT-Aus, apdt#1827, CVA, TDF *wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.* tmp, sept-2007 Last edited by leashedForLife; 22-06-2010 at 01:48 AM.. Reason: *done* -- not Down, lol |
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this is a sad thread -
1 Puppy?? - Pet Forums Community single pup who may or may not have had a heartbeat at birth; very possibly stillborn. nonetheless, there are helpful posts sprinkled thru-out it by members who HAVE had solo-pups, explaining the very high-likelihood of super-sized single pups being too huge to whelp, the higher than normal chance of a Caesarian-section/surgical delivery instead of vaginal whelping, and so on. it is worth reading - but have tissues at the ready. RIP, little angel... |
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Re: fostering off a solo-pup... OXYTOCIN the wonder-drug
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Another great post Real interesting reading Welshie and Terri
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predisposing factors toward large litters, the importance of nutrition,
HEREDITY - small litters *run in the maternal or paternal line?* cope with the solo-pup, precautions to improve future-behavior + outcome... etc. BATTAGLIA DVM - highly recommended. Powered by Google Docs Golden x Poodle - single-pup and size issues - D & L Doodles Google-books result with *trish mcConnells* experiences of solo-pups - Animals make us human: creating the ... - Google Books trish is a vet-behaviorist and a magnificent trainer, i can only presume she is a good breeder as well ![]()
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terry pride, APDT-Aus, apdt#1827, CVA, TDF *wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.* tmp, sept-2007 |
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Re: Singleton Puppies
Great thread. This is the reason many experienced breeders have their bitches scanned. Everyone knows a scan can be inaccurate, but they can rule out singletons in the majority of carer and the breeder can relax a little about an up coming labour. If only one pup was seen but more are present there is no harm done as you are prepared with the vet, which costs nothing if you never need to use it as your bitch begins labour on her own...
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