Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I looked for Millie and Lucy and both of their classes said 'cat' not 'kitten'.

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Lily - silver Egyptian Mau
Jasper - Burmese X moggy - missing!
Electra - silver Egyptian Mau
(Truffles - chocolate tortie syrian hammy - bye little one, I miss you)
And 6 little balls of silver spotty fluff! OMG KITTENZ etc

I think I have read that page wrong.

Perhaps that isn't clear but Stan certainly would not have been competing against cats that were outside of this list if he did not get BOV overall. If he was the best kitten then he would compete against the best adult & it was an adult that was in the pen for BIS.

He was the only kitten in the pet section and MC Alfred who won it was a stunning boy and deserved it, I was just confused with this lady coming up to me and she definatly said that he had beaten all the other cats, like you say though until it is in black and white need to take any comments etc with a pinch of salt.

Never mind like I said I was and am so thrilled with them both it really doesn't matter I'm was just trying to understand it all for next time!! LOL
Thanks for all your advice and explanations
Allison

Looking at the results and cats there it seems that Stanley was the only non ped/pet ped kitten there so I would say that he was awarded BIS HP Kitten. What happens usually is that the shows ask the judges to pick a BIS Non-Ped Adult, a BIS Non-Ped Kitten, a BIS Pet-Ped Adult and, a BIS Pet-Ped Kitten, then to choose ONE Overall BIS from the 4 (if all 4 are present). OR they just pick an overall BIS Adult from both sections and BIS Kitten from both sections then an Overall BIS from the two, some, like the Yorkshire have all 4 BIS awards then an Overall Non-Ped and an Overall Pet-Ped rather than the 2 competing."Our" South Ribble show, where we had Adult, Kitten & Junior in both sections is different as we are a solely non-ped show so can go the extra mile :-)

I suspect that on Saturday either Alfred was the Non-Ped Adult, there was no Non-Ped Kitten, one of the Pet-Ped Adults was BIS Pet-Ped Adult and Stanley was BIS Pet-Ped Kitten then Alfred was BIS Overall or else they just picked one of each Adult & Kitten, Alfred was BIS Non/Pet-Ped Adult and Stanley was BIS Non/Pet-Ped Kitten. Either way, Alfred got the Overall BIS and, as usually happens, no further mention is made of any of the others - again, unlike "our" show where they all get a "posh pen"!

As for going up against the pedigrees, no, there are 2 distinct and seperate BIS, one each for the pedigree and non/pet pedigree sections and ne'er the twain shall meet!!! (Well, they did once, several years ago, and a judge made history - and got everyone into a lot of bother ;-) - by picking the HP as the Overall BIS!!! Actually, that was Alfred too LOL).

Carol

HI CArol
many thanks for the info and now it is all clear and what a funny story about Alfred!!! LOL

I think I met a friend of yours there on sat who was Teddy Boy's owner, sorry don't have my schedule here at work to know her name but sure you'll know who I mean. She was really nice and even let me give Teddy a cuddle, he is absolutely gorgous!!! I could of taken him home (husband would kill me if I got any more cats though)!!LOL

Stan done me so proud and the next show we'll be at is the Shropshire now on 6th Feb, said I wouldn't travel any more than 1 hour but getting the bug!!!

The cats in the pet section were all loveley and it was horrible to hear some of the horror stories about them being rescued. There are very evil people out there.

Thanks again and good luck with your cats in any up coming shows, are you ate the supreme?
Take Care
Allison

No probs, Allison :-)

Yes, pauline is lovely, as is Teddy Boy, what a huge soppy boy he is!!

Will see you at the Shropshire then, it's actually not too far, certainly takes me well under 2 hours from here.

Yes, got all the curly boys and girl at the Supreme plus another couple of HPs too :-))

Carol

I'll hopefully be at that one with Liz When the tiny Mau will be less tiny! God she looked miniscule in the BOV pens next to that massive British and Persian.

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Lily - silver Egyptian Mau
Jasper - Burmese X moggy - missing!
Electra - silver Egyptian Mau
(Truffles - chocolate tortie syrian hammy - bye little one, I miss you)
And 6 little balls of silver spotty fluff! OMG KITTENZ etc

I thought that British was going to get BIS. He was HUGE!

FINALLY I GET IT!!! LOL
just checked my schedule and Stan would of got BOC out of all the pet pedigree's (not non pet pedigree's) and there was 7 including him so "well Stan the Man"!! When the lady said he had beaten the other cats she would of meant the other pet pedigree's so all makes sense at last!
Look forward to seeing you all st the Shropshire show.

Just want to send a HUGE GOOD LUCK Carol for the supreme!