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Old 03-05-2009, 06:12 PM
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Couple of Qs following yesterday

Hello,

My kitten won her open class (not BOB) & I appear to be under the impression she is now eligible for the Supreme show, is this correct? What would a cat win at a supreme show if they are not titled already? Can they get CCs or a supreme title without the CH?

I remember there being a BOB box on the entry form that I didn't touch, I assume this is to select whether or not you want your cat to be judged as BOB is this correct or is it automatic?

Do cats (not kittens, I know they don't get anything but placings) get "cc" or whatever certificate automatically with a BOB or is it for a first placing?

Final Q, I assume that if your kitten is not nine months on the nose or older on the day of a future show you can only enter them as a kitten & thus it would almost be pointless? My kitten is nine months old the day after a show that is due to take place near us & I have also spotted a couple of things that do not correlate regarding her DOB (her litter brother at the show yesterday had a different date of birth & the pedigree certificate has a different date of birth to the date I was advised of in person & on my GCCF slip). Shame, though, as I will have to wait until August now.
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:56 PM
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Re: Couple of Qs following yesterday

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Hello,

My kitten won her open class (not BOB) & I appear to be under the impression she is now eligible for the Supreme show, is this correct? What would a cat win at a supreme show if they are not titled already? Can they get CCs or a supreme title without the CH?

I remember there being a BOB box on the entry form that I didn't touch, I assume this is to select whether or not you want your cat to be judged as BOB is this correct or is it automatic?

Do cats (not kittens, I know they don't get anything but placings) get "cc" or whatever certificate automatically with a BOB or is it for a first placing?

Final Q, I assume that if your kitten is not nine months on the nose or older on the day of a future show you can only enter them as a kitten & thus it would almost be pointless? My kitten is nine months old the day after a show that is due to take place near us & I have also spotted a couple of things that do not correlate regarding her DOB (her litter brother at the show yesterday had a different date of birth & the pedigree certificate has a different date of birth to the date I was advised of in person & on my GCCF slip). Shame, though, as I will have to wait until August now.
Firstly well done on your win, as I remember it they can qualify for the Supreme without the BOB thats just a bonus lol.

You could show her a day older of nine months, plenty of people do show them on the day they are nine months or a day over lol! She will be up against older cats but it really depends on the judge on the day.

Hope you had a lovely day! how did you do in your side classes?

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Re: Couple of Qs following yesterday

1. Yes she has qualified

2. At the Supreme Kittens are placed 1 - 6 in there open classes (there are no sides) and can get BOB. Then all the BOB kittens are judged again to pick BOV. Then the BOV kitten goes up against the BOV kittens of all other breeds to choose Supreme Kitten.

Adults are the same. Though the classes are split to pre champion - champion and grand champion. If you cat is a Gr Ch you go against other Gr Ch's for a UK Certificate. You need to win 2 of these to become a UK Gr Ch. You can only get UKs at the Supreme The same with Neuters except they win PC's etc.

To get the title of "Supreme" you must win BOV and then go against the other BOVs and get picked.

The three Supremes Adult, Kitten, Neuter go against each other for Overall Supreme Exhibit.

3. The BOB box is what you tick if you want to be entered for BOB only. If you have a Gr Pr cat for example you can enter the imp class and grand class but not the open too so u choose the BOB only.

4. If you enter the open class you can get placed BOB yes.

5.If you have a male and female against each other in opens. One may get CC and BOB and the other just a CC. Also if you are the only cat in the class and you CC is withheld then so is the BOB.

6. How much difference in the DOB are they littermates?
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Re: Couple of Qs following yesterday

This gives you information on what you need to qualify for the Supreme :

Supreme Cat Show - How to qualify

and there is more information about the class structure here ;


Supreme Cat Show - Class structure

When an adult or neuter is judged in the open, the judge first gives them a placing so if there are 3 girls present say, will place those 1st, 2nd and 3rd (they can withhold placings if they think the cat is not worthy). Then they will look at their first place winner and decide whether they meet the standards for a certificate. They do that for each sex, then they choose Best of Breed from the female cc/pc and the male cc/pc winners. If they withhold the certificate then BOB is also not awarded. If you win a cc/pc and there is no cat of the opposite sex then BOB is a given with that cert. Thats to say I have never seen a cc given but BOB withheld.

The information to rely on re DOB is that on the pink slip. It could be there was a typo in the catalogue, thats why you should keep a copy of your entry form, and take it with you. The minute you get your catalogue check your details listed carefully and report any discrepancies to the show manager right away. Some errors if left unchecked can mean loss of an award.
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Re: Couple of Qs following yesterday

Thanks for the quick replies!

Her brother was down at the show yesterday as being born two days before mine which agrees with the certificate but not her registration. It means that on the day of the Gwynedd show, which I could attend, she would be a kitten rather than an adult & I would rather wait for her to be classed as an adult by one day (it is the day before her 9 month "birthday").

She came 2nd in the SLH non breeder kitten class & 3rd in SLH maiden kitten but failed to place in AV Maine Coon Kitten though her sister was placed 3rd whom she beat in both classes prior to it.

So she could get a PC (as she will be a neuter at this stage) even if she doesn't get a BOB like she did yesterday?

So she could get a PC at the Supreme & if she is super lucky get a BOV (best overall variety??) which could lead to winning that to get a "supreme" title? Even though she has no other title? What do you achieve if your cat is CH? Can they compete for UK too at CH level? Does that carry on if they achieve GR, so that they are automatically UK GR CH or do they start again at GR CH?

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Re: Couple of Qs following yesterday

If she is shown at the Supreme as a pre premier then she will compete for a PC. If she is lucky to win that, and BOB over the male PC winner she will go on to compete for BOV. If she wins BOV she will be granted another PC. If she goes on to win Supreme Neuter, she will have "Supreme" placed before her other titles.

To win a UK certificate you have to already have acheived Gr Pr status.

Pre premier classes compete for PCs. If your cat is already a Pr then they go into the Premier class and compete for Gr Pr certs. If your cat is already a Gr Pr then they go into the UK class and compete for a UK cert. You need 2 of those from different judges to be granted the title of UK Gr Pr.
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Re: Couple of Qs following yesterday

Another daft question.

When making entries I noticed you can pay to be a member & there are member prices and non-member prices.

Is it actually as easy as paying to be a member & paying for the entry for the show, it being less than the entry for a non-member and you have member status or is there something to stop this???
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Does anyone know?
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