went to have a look at a club show today as it was fairly local, and walking down the non-pedigree row i saw a somali, a ragdoll, a half persian and a full persian, as well as a BSH cross....the overall winner of the section was a full pedigree persian!

now to me this is ridiculous....its a non-pedigree section, not a pedigree with no papers section! the good old moggies dont stand a chance if they are up against all pedigrees (as was proven today)

is this unfair? or is it just me?

Indy has beaten a couple of half peds but thing is, without papers the other cats are technically in the right area. It all depends on the judge on the day.

Personally I would like to see a split in the non ped section with classes being specifically moggy or ped with no papers, the crosses in with the Moggies... but then again most shows find it hard enough getting non-ped entries

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I think its fair for a half pedigree to compete in a moggy class as thats what it is really. When its a full pedigree with out papers i disagree but.......... where do we draw the line........ its upto the judge at the end of the day it should just be judged on the condition/temprement of the cat not looks just my opinion.

Entering a Pedigree cat without papers into a show for non pedigree cats is wrong IMO . it's unfair on the poor old moggy cat for which this section was made up for, If the title of the section says "non pedigree" then thats what it should be, perhaps shows could try a section for peds without papers , but then will we have BYB'S jumping in and telling people who buy their kittens that they can be shown?.... I think NON PEDIGREE should be just that.......CHRIS.

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I understand what your saying but how about a cat with one pedigree parent? is that a moggy or is this a part pedigree, I think at the end of the day its wrong to say BYBs will jump in as accidents happen to even the most experienced people and every cat should be aloud to be shown. Why cant pedigree cats without papers be shown in the normal sections? surely they would be judged all the same regardless of pedigree papers.

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Thats what i thought it was judged on i dont show my cats so couldnt comment on it much.

Within the non ped section you often get rescue ped and half ped classes so it is quite within the rules for these cats to enter ....

My experienced HP exhibitor friend tells me it is extremely rare to do well with a part ped or rescued ped because they DON'T look like moggies so I guess what you saw today was the rare exception? she herself has shown a half-ped among her HP cats and says it was that much harder to win Best in Shows with her.

HP classes are judged on temperament, personality, presentation, condition and grooming not an SOP so it really does come down to that and really whether they are little showmen or ladies or not ......

i thought i was seeing things when i saw a white persian! lol

tbh a lot of shows ive been too recently have had full peds in the HP classes, just as they have no papers.

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