Hi Everyone me again,

Ok not sure if I should post this here as it's abit of a rant but as you can see from the title thread i've had enough of Snoopy.

As many of you have given great advice on my peeing and pooing in living room thread I have decided to start a new one.

Things have got really out of hand as Snoopy is peeing all over the house now mostly at the bottom of the stairs and the top of the stairs right next to her litter trays with the new attract litter but unfortunately this seems to only work with her using it to poo in.

I have gone through two bottle of the simple solution/enzyme solution and it just seems to make her want to pee on top of it even more...I think I'm doing it right.

This morning I got up to a huge puddle of wee at the bottom of the stairs and tonight when I took the dogs out and my husband was in the bathroom she wee'd at the top of the stairs.

I'm so fed up of it and my husband wants her to go but I can't get rid of her she's my granddaughter cat and I don't give up on my family.

I'm going to try putting her in the bathroom tonight with her tray and bed and see how we go but unfortunately it means the dogs won't be able to get to there water but will have to try it as everything has failed.

Sorry for the long thread but so fed up and upset.

Don't blame you for feeling so frustrated! Am going through something similar with Sybil but it's not half as bad as she uses the tray most of the time.

Have you tried getting a recommendation from your vet for a behaviourist? Might be worth the initial expense if it gets to the root of the problem, solves it and avoids future expense on stuff that may not work!

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Have thought about it but unfortunately husband just wants to get rid of her so not really sure that he will go for it but as i've cried my eyes out tonight something has to be done. So I think I may get a quote can't hurt tried everything else with her.

She's happy to poo in the tray as she has just done that but I know soon enough wee will appear

Definitely get a quote and take it from there - you may save yourself a lot of money and heartache in the long run. A fresh pair of (trained!) eyes may be able to see something in your kitty's environment that you haven't picked up on.

Stay strong

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Don't know if this will help. Years ago I had this beautiful lilac point Siamese and we all adored the cat. She started spraying on everything. We covered the bottom parts of sofas, chairs etc. with plastic wrap. She squatted and peed on the carpet. She did use the litter box at times. One vet gave her antibiotics (big problem was my vet died in the process of treating her). So it was back and forth with different vets. The last straw was when the vet wanted to send her to a shrink vet. The cat loved everybody and all the other cats in the house, so that thought was crazy. Time went along and finally we came to the conclusion with another vet...but even though sending her to a specialist...well to make along story short she died right after surgery because her blood would not clot. So the problem was...she could not smell due to the fact she had an infection in her head. The infection had eaten away at her sinus passages. Her inability to not be able to smell very well caused her to mark everything. She didn't do it to be bad she did because she was an animal that requires scent to know where they are. At least that was the final understanding of the problem. I learned from that experience it is the whole body that needs to be considered not just the problem end.

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Have you tried using two trays? Have you tried hooded trays versus open trays? Have you tried trays in different areas of the house? Have you got a feliway diffuser going? Does she have her own space away from the dogs? Other than litter attract have you tried other litters? Many cats will only go in clean tray, or need one tray for poops and one tray for wees, some need to go almost n secret (hooded trays),. DO the dogs stress her out in anyway, or do they completely ignore her? Are they allowed in the area that she uses for her tray and so make it smell of dog not cat?

I hope you can get it sorted, reading your other thread it sounds like you have dog problems too. Maybe she is picking up on the stress in the house at the moment - that can cause them to have soiling problems.

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Have you had her checked by the vet? I can't pretend to know a lot about cats, but it seems to me that if she is pooing in her tray, but weeing wherever, it could be that she cannot hold on to it.

Could you put the dogs' water somewhere else for the night so she can have a space in the bathroom? I have Ferdie's water in the living room at night so that I can shut Diva in the kitchen with hers, or she wees on my carpet.

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Not sure what you've already tried but try cleaning the area with the Simple Solution, dry it as best you can by blotting it with kitchen roll, maybe put a hairdryer on it, put down a puppy pad (or disposable baby changing mat) and spray it with feliway. I've had a similar thing with one of mine weeing by the front door. Initially I bought a covered tray and put it where he was doing the wee, which made getting in and out of the house a bit of a trial and I had to explain why it was there to visitors Gradually over time I moved the tray further from the door. After about a month I replaced it with a small, open tray and eventually I was able to just leave a puppy pad down. I was still cleaning the area every 1-2 days with Simple during this time and also continuing with the Feliway. It has taken about 3 months but the hall floor has been dry now for at least 6 weeks. It will take time and perseverance but it can be sorted. Good luck

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I agree it sounds maybe an over all stress thing.
As Spid said maybe that she needs some dog free space. My dogs and cats get on great, but the cats do have areas that the dogs don't go, so that they can toilet n eat in peace.

Something else to maybe try is cats usually don't like walking on aluminium foil, so if she has a favourite spot or two could you cover it with foil (having cleaned the area), to discourage her.

Once good toilet pattens established, it can then be removed.

Hope you're feeling a bit better today?

Who is your pet insurance with? Just found out that Pet plan can cover behavioural treatment under veterinary fees, providing it is carried out by a APBC member.

Am going to go for it myself - I'll still have to pay the excess, but it'll save me over £200! There are cheaper behaviourists, but I want to go with a very reputable one and if insurance covers it, the cost doesn't matter that much

Hope we both sort out the problem soon!

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