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Old 09-02-2012, 03:28 PM
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Re: Frustrated, Angry, Upset and about to Cry

i still say put her in a room where there is a washable floor with her own tray food and water and also a bed.
i know this sounds drastic and i dont know if you can do it, but when i have had this trouble in the past, i literally cut out the underelay under the carpet, if it is carpeted there, and washed the underlay. this has often worked.
if the vet has okayed her from any medical problem, then it is more than likely that she is stressed about something and it could be the dogs. cats by nature do not wee or mess in their environment unless they are worried about something ie predator etc.
is there no way that you can keep her away from these spots. nellie my wegie used to do this alot especially when a newcomer arrived in the house and i keep her in the extension which has access into the pen. this i have done every night for about two months.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:59 PM
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Re: Frustrated, Angry, Upset and about to Cry

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Have you tried using two trays? Have you tried hooded trays versus open trays? Have you tried trays in different areas of the house? Have you got a feliway diffuser going? Does she have her own space away from the dogs? Other than litter attract have you tried other litters? Many cats will only go in clean tray, or need one tray for poops and one tray for wees, some need to go almost n secret (hooded trays),. DO the dogs stress her out in anyway, or do they completely ignore her? Are they allowed in the area that she uses for her tray and so make it smell of dog not cat?
I wonder this too - Even humans can get stage fright if we can't go to the loo in peace (well I do!) - maybe a hooded litter tray in a quieter place may help her feel able to go the loo in peace?
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Old 09-02-2012, 08:32 PM
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Re: Frustrated, Angry, Upset and about to Cry

Thank you so much for all your support and advice.

I have used I think nearly every litter that's on the market over the years and it doesn't seem to matter.
I have used both open and hooded trays and even swapped them round and had several on the go.
I have several litter trays scattered around the house.
It definitely isn't about her not being able to hold it as she she's almost 6years old and looks at the tray and then goes.
I've tried lifting her into the tray but that was awhile a go and as she doesn't really like to be handled I think it frightened her.
I've used the feliway diffuser and the feliway spray but doesn't make a difference.
The dogs ignore her except when she's jumping up all over them and giving them kisses.
The trays aren't in the areas that they go as they are everywhere that she likes to wee.

Last night enough was enough so I put her in the bathroom as she's already got a tray in there with water and a bed. I then closed the door and then put the dog gate up...Unfortunately she did the great escape...
She managed to open the door (I admit not the securist) and then somehow she got out of the dog gate and then came jumping on my bed as if to say "Look Nanny I completed your challenge." She then went to sleep in between my legs until my husband got in...WEE bottom of the stairs next to litter tray.

So the only other place she can go is the kitchen so she went in there with litter tray, water, bed and food. She wasn't happy but the great thing is being upstairs you can't hear her.

This evening I watched her use the litter tray and thought great so I shut the living room door and allowed her to come into the living room with access to the kitchen and also because she has never had a wee when we have been in the room (not on the carpet anyway) but no there she went a nice big huge wee in the corner so back to the kitchen she's gone

I'm going to get a behaviourist because life can't be all about Snoopy weeing and living in the kitchen.

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Old 11-02-2012, 06:36 PM
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Re: Frustrated, Angry, Upset and about to Cry

Hi again

I've been thinking about this again - I'm guessing you have had her checked for UTI/cystitis/crystals?

If that's clear, I did wonder if the RC Calm food that I am using may help? I am using it with Bibi and have noticed a huge change in confidence and personality since she has been on it (2 months now) - she is much happier and less stressed..... I know I sound a bit evangelical, but it has been amazing for us. My vet suggested it when Bibi was so timid and stressed, and I was told that the vet nurse with behaviour specialism at the practise had had very good results? It says it can help the urinary maifestations of stress. Maybe worth a chat with your vet too??

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Hi again

I've been thinking about this again - I'm guessing you have had her checked for UTI/cystitis/crystals?

If that's clear, I did wonder if the RC Calm food that I am using may help? I am using it with Bibi and have noticed a huge change in confidence and personality since she has been on it (2 months now) - she is much happier and less stressed..... I know I sound a bit evangelical, but it has been amazing for us. My vet suggested it when Bibi was so timid and stressed, and I was told that the vet nurse with behaviour specialism at the practise had had very good results? It says it can help the urinary maifestations of stress. Maybe worth a chat with your vet too??

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Thank you for that advice will certainly speak to the vet about that food...hmm never even realised they did food like that.
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Old 14-02-2012, 08:03 AM
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Re: Frustrated, Angry, Upset and about to Cry

Life with Snoopy is changing

Well after some very stressful years and wonderful advice from all of you on here life seems to be getting better.

Last Thursday night after the naughtiness in the living room Snoopy officially moved into the kitchen and wow what a transformation.
On Saturday evening when my husband came to rescue me falling out of the shower he left the living room door open and within five minutes she'd pooped at the bottom of the stairs but no wee...half hooray

Ever since Snoopy has been coming into the living room in the evening with us and for the rest of the time spending it in the kitchen. She has been using the tray for both wee and poo, is using her bed, which she hasn't done for about three years and hasn't had any naughty weeing in the living room since last Thursday. She even goes in there when I say night time now instead of chasing her round the living room.

I'm sure i've put a kiss of death on this now and no where near ready to let her anywhere else but I feel a little stress free...Now for training the husband to keep the door shut...Next Challenge

Thank you to whoever suggested time out for her.
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Re: Frustrated, Angry, Upset and about to Cry

great news, but you must keep this for sometime or else she will go back to using the carpet, and gradually let her into the other rooms but very gradually.
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great news, but you must keep this for sometime or else she will go back to using the carpet, and gradually let her into the other rooms but very gradually.
Yes that's what we've been doing she came upstairs tonight for half hour while I was getting showered and no accidents but she does seem very happy in the kitchen so keep your fingers crossed
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Re: Frustrated, Angry, Upset and about to Cry

hiya, have you tried a DAP SPRAY or collar? you can get them from the vets i think they are about £30 roughly but they are really good ask your vet though x
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Old 16-02-2012, 09:12 PM
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hiya, have you tried a DAP SPRAY or collar? you can get them from the vets i think they are about £30 roughly but they are really good ask your vet though x
Thanks for your advice but yes been down that road several times and just didn't make a difference.

Things are getting better it's been a week since the last wee incident so I feel like we're getting there now but still wary of her in the living room and keep watching her every move but fingers crossed things are going to be ok probably just living in the kitchen and time in the living room with us in the evening.

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