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Old 13-10-2010, 03:52 PM
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Re: New Kitten - Day 3 - Several Questions! (Crying all night, Switching Dry Food etc

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Ibicca - the reason I suggested keeping her on the current food for now is because this kitten is already under a huge amount of stress - far more than most kittens in new homes by the sounds of it. A complete chage of diet on top of high stress is highly likely to cause a dodgy tummy. I certainly wouldn't keep her on crap food any longer than necessary - but nor would I start changing it until she has at least stopped with the crying and started to settle.

I also never said there was anything wrong with a varied diet - my boys get various flavours of at least 5 different brands.
But as you said yourself - the biggest issue here is that the difference between whiskas dry and applaws dry is vast - switching straight from one to the other would be similar to giving a lifelong veggie a mixed grill! Hence introducing it gradually.
Once the kitten is happily eating a high meat, grain free food I wouldn't be too concerned about giving a variety of similar foods.
Hey, no worries You'd initially said "all food changes"... just a little misunderstanding on my part. No harm, no foul

And it's not clear from the original post... was the kitten on Whiskas at the breeder's? If not, one way to start might be to switch her back to the food she was weaned on before trying more new stuff if the kitten is that stressed out.
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Old 13-10-2010, 11:12 PM
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Re: New Kitten - Day 3 - Several Questions! (Crying all night, Switching Dry Food etc

Hey tf!

I can't add much on to what has been said (great advice) as my kitten William didn't really have any problems with crying and whatnot. He was fairly inquisitive from the word go. However, he was nervous of his toys for the first couple of days (especially the bigger ones) and played with highlighter pens strangely enough. As I said, this only lasted a couple of days and now he loves the toys!

I only feed him wet food as at this moment in time he seems to have no interest in dry, this means I can't leave it down very long. He refuses to drink any water so I give in and keep the kitten milk stocked up!

As for the light etc; William sleeps in the living room at night with the door closed and although it is silent I do leave a small lamp on. I think this may be for my benefit as I can't seem to get it into my head that he can still see and function! I don't really think he'd be too fussed either way.

Best of luck and welcome to the forum. I'm sure things will be great with your kitten before you know it
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Old 14-10-2010, 07:52 PM
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...What type of bowl do you have? Ceramic or stainless steel are better than plastic, which can hold/release odours and bacteria over time.

Hm, that's a tricky one. With an adult cat, they should be able to figure it out, but a kitten can get seriously injured if it falls Any way to shorten the cat tree temporarily so it's more kitten-sized? Or maybe provide some sort of ramp or stairway up to the top, so she can get down easily? If not, I'd actually suggest you get a smaller tree and keep the large one hidden away until she's big enough to handle it
I have a ceramic food bowl and a plastic water dispenser. So I shall start to give these both a bit of a clean every day or so while she is on dry, and every day once i start feeding her wet.

I came up with an idea to fence of the top of the cat tree: I wrapped some card in aluminium foil and then duct taped them around the upper section of the struts. We tried it out with her last night, and now she gets up halfway and then backs down. I am hoping this might help to train her to go down the posts as well as up, but not sure if it will work.

Do cats usually just jump off the top of ceiling height cat trees? Or do they eventually learn how to do down the posts?

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...I certainly wouldn't keep her on crap food any longer than necessary - but nor would I start changing it until she has at least stopped with the crying and started to settle.

I also never said there was anything wrong with a varied diet - my boys get various flavours of at least 5 different brands.
But as you said yourself - the biggest issue here is that the difference between whiskas dry and applaws dry is vast - switching straight from one to the other would be similar to giving a lifelong veggie a mixed grill! Hence introducing it gradually.
Once the kitten is happily eating a high meat, grain free food I wouldn't be too concerned about giving a variety of similar foods.
Since she seems *alot* happier now I have started switching to applaws in a 1:4 mix. She will happily eat Applaws if I feed it to her or when it is mixed in, so hopefully I will be able to switch her over after a couple weeks?

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... so, the second day, i sat in the kitchen, in view of the carrier, playing with Poppy, so Pixie could see i wasnt scary and wouldnt hurt her. This still didnt work. i put the water and dry food bowls right by the carrier, and she edged out enough to have a very quick drink and a nibble, then went back in.
Eventually, i decided that i would sit by the carrier, and occassionally put my hand in and stroke her briefly, then leave her for 5-10mins, and do it again. after about the 7th time she realised it was ok, and wandered out, used the litter tray, had a quick play, then went back into the box. Again i stroked her a few times, and she eventually came out for longer each time. That night she started crying at 3am waking us up, so i went down to the kitchen, sleepily sat on the floor, and she came and curled up on my lap! i could have cried, i was so tired, but so glad she was finally accepting us.

Anyway, i would try the above, gentle reassurance then back off and leave kitty be for a few minutes.

with the food, find out what the breeder was feeding, and stick to that for a little while, as it'll be what kitty is used to, and more likely to accept.
I'm glad that we aren't the only ones caving in to kitten crying: I had read in so many places to ignore it because it will start bad habits, but does this not apply to times of obvious stress such as moving after from her mother/litter?

Either way she has stopped crying now as far as I can tell...

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Hey, no worries You'd initially said "all food changes"... just a little misunderstanding on my part. No harm, no foul

And it's not clear from the original post... was the kitten on Whiskas at the breeder's? If not, one way to start might be to switch her back to the food she was weaned on before trying more new stuff if the kitten is that stressed out.
Yes she was on dry whiskers at the breeder, but now that she doesnt seem stressed any more I am starting the switch over...

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Hey tf!

I can't add much on to what has been said (great advice) as my kitten William didn't really have any problems with crying and whatnot. He was fairly inquisitive from the word go. However, he was nervous of his toys for the first couple of days (especially the bigger ones) and played with highlighter pens strangely enough. As I said, this only lasted a couple of days and now he loves the toys!

I only feed him wet food as at this moment in time he seems to have no interest in dry, this means I can't leave it down very long. He refuses to drink any water so I give in and keep the kitten milk stocked up!

As for the light etc; William sleeps in the living room at night with the door closed and although it is silent I do leave a small lamp on. I think this may be for my benefit as I can't seem to get it into my head that he can still see and function! I don't really think he'd be too fussed either way.

Best of luck and welcome to the forum. I'm sure things will be great with your kitten before you know it
Sparkles
We have been having a similar problem with toys too... there was no response to string/thread and she is still afraid of the feathers on a stick toy.
However, we have managed to get her to play with a bit of cardboard on a thread, and I am trying to get her to play with larger things such as a loo roll, but with mixed success.

Feel a bit mean not leaving her with some good toys in the day time, but she doesn't seem interested in anything that isnt actually moving around. However, if this seems to change I will splash out on some from zooplus.

I have ordered a laser pointer today, since that seems like it might be her kind of thing.


Thanks for all the advise all, I am happy to report that it has helped alot. Aside from some general sleepyness from the flu/enteritis jab the other day she is a great deal happier, although still a bit timid.
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Old 15-10-2010, 09:45 AM
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Re: New Kitten - Day 3 - Several Questions! (Crying all night, Switching Dry Food etc

she'll come out of her shell eventually!

i had also read to not give in to her crying, but when they are that stressed anyway i think for a few days its understandable to give in to it. its certainly not caused any issues for us now. she only did it for a few days till she was slightly more settled, and we always left her a good 20mins to see if she would settle herself first, which ended up being the case.

toy wise, we got some from pets at home that are catnip...one in the shape of a fish and one a flower, they are flat, on a plastic string, have a little bell, and a stick to hold it. When pixie was first getting brave, she loved it...worth seeing if you can get one, it was only a couple of pounds
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Re: New Kitten - Day 3 - Several Questions! (Crying all night, Switching Dry Food etc

hmm yes perhaps some catnip wouldn't go amiss at livening her up a bit, although the recent discovery of putting a small tinfoil ball in a tissue box has been very effective at keeping her amused on her own for a bit...

At the moment there is a definite pattern: she is a lot more playful late at night but hopefully she will adapt over time to a timetable more in keeping with our own.
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Re: New Kitten - Day 3 - Several Questions! (Crying all night, Switching Dry Food etc

Hi Tf.
I wouldn't worry about the toys situation. She is finding other things to amuse her so it isn't really too much of a problem and she will almost definitely grow to like them in time.

Although William wasn't/isn't really a crier, for the first few days he really wasn't interested in playing with anything but pens or little bits and bobs lying about. We've now had him for 3 weeks and he is absolutely crazy However, their are a couple of toys he still seems a bit nervous of. He seems scared of things that rattle or with bells on them for the most part.

Glad you're finding the forum useful, it can really help when you're worrying yourself silly about something! I was going out my mind when I first got William till I came on here!
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