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Old 26-02-2010, 10:03 AM
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Trouble with Applaws dry

I have been feeding Applaws dry for around 2 weeks now, i switched from royal canin.

2 of my cats are fine, but my persian now has diahorrea and has done for 3 days now. The 1st day was really bad, almost like water on my carpets etc

Over the last 2 days he has "firmed up" a little, but is still very soft and there was a little blood in a couple of the "piles".

whats going on here?

can anyone recommend if i should keep trying with this food, or change back to royal canin, or try something else?
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Old 26-02-2010, 10:41 AM
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Re: Trouble with Applaws dry

When changing food, its good to do it gradually.

It might be worth buying a batch of your usual Royal Canin, and mixing it in.

First start with a switch back to complete RC. If the loose stools continue for more than two or three days when back on this food, it's probably time to visit the vet.

Assuming everything firms up in a few days, then start adding a small amount of the new food with mostly the RC. Over the course of a week or two, increase the proportion of the new food until you are no longer including any RC.

If you see any looseness developing again, then switch back to full RC, and try another alternative food using the same method.
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That reaction seems to be a common problem. A friend had a worse reaction with her rag doll after eating less than a third of a free sample. He was violently sick and had uncontrollable diarrhoea until his body had worked everything out his system.

Before you go any further with it I would type 'applaws dry norwegian forest' into google.
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Applaws dried food is a complete change of diet for your cat as it is cereal free. If you have been feeding traditional dried food then there will have been a large amount of cereal in it so moving to applaws will be a significant change. Like any change of diet it should be done gradually as it might cause tummy upset, I liken it to going on holiday where the sudden change of diet can cause tummy trouble in us humans.

My two boys have been on it for about 6 months now and I would highly recommend it, they are senior cats and the difference in the fur quality is quite remarkable.

I have had a read of the article mentioned by Saikou and I have to feel sorry for the lady in question over her loss, but you have to question the validity of what she says as if it were all true I am sure Trading Standards would have taken some action to stop it being sold?

Anyway, my boys thrive on it. Just remember to move them across gradually and you should be fine
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I have had a read of the article mentioned by Saikou and I have to feel sorry for the lady in question over her loss, but you have to question the validity of what she says as if it were all true I am sure Trading Standards would have taken some action to stop it being sold?
Or if it was completely untrue without evidence the author would have been facing libel procedings from the manufacturers From what I have read on other boards, the author is not alone in their opinions. With regard to TS, I would imagine that their wheels turn very slowly and pet foods are very low on their priority list especially as there have not been a lot of deaths connected with the product.

At best the issue with the food seems to cause sickness and diarrhoea in a lot of cats and that has been recorded on here and a number of other chat boards and groups. How many of those cases have been put down to a change in foods rather than an issue with the food its self? The reaction the author saw in their cats seems to be extreme and in the minority - again not a reason for the TS wheels to start churning any faster - but that does not make their situation any less concerning and relevant for others considering feeding the food!
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That reaction seems to be a common problem. A friend had a worse reaction with her rag doll after eating less than a third of a free sample. He was violently sick and had uncontrollable diarrhoea until his body had worked everything out his system.

Before you go any further with it I would type 'applaws dry norwegian forest' into google.
I've followed this link and I'm really shocked. I only recently changed over to Applaws because I read it's so good. I was already feeling concerned about the company's bona fides because I had read on their PR bumpf that they take animal welfare seriously, so I emailed to ask how they ensure that chickens are treated humanely when their tinned food comes from Thailand. They have not bothered to respond, which in itself tells you something. I might as well go back to feeding Morrisons Finest.
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Re: Trouble with Applaws dry

Following on from the debate about Applaws dried food, I though I would ring the company to hear their side of the story....there are always two sides, and I have to admit being a little concerned. I still

They were really helpful and certainly put my mind at rest. They told me that they would send me a statement in response to the accusations which I thought I would share with you, quite a few of my kitty friends feed the dried food and none of their cats have got ill.
MPM did say it was OK to post this so here it is.

Dear customer
Some 12 months ago we received a complaint from a customer with regards to sickness in her cat which she believed resulted from the feeding of our dried product.

The customer informed us that she had made the complaint to Trading Standards who would be investigating the complaint.*Trading Standards (Animal Health) are responsible for collation of complaints against all animal related businesses, this information is collated using a national database called Consumer Direct. To date Trading Standards have only received 1 complaint.

Trading standards engaged the Public Analyst to carry out tests on our product and concluded that; nothing could be found in our food that was not permitted by Feeding Stuffs legislation.*
If our company was in breach of such legislation then they would have prosecuted us for that breach.

We take our product quality very seriously and alongside the tests carried out by Trading Standards both the manufacturing facility and ourselves carried out independent analysis on the product and in each case returned the same result as Trading Standards.

The manufacturer of Applaws dry food is approved by the British Retail Consortium, Global Standard for Food Safety, which is used by certification bodies world-wide and is recognised as the benchmark for best practice in the manufacturing and retail supply chain of our pet food.*It*assures quality by implementing the most rigorous testing at every stage together with total traceability of every raw material and finished batch.

Our products are well received and being fed to thousands of cats both in the UK and in Europe and have been so since its launch 12 months ago. We have many testimonials from cat owners who report significant benefits to their animals as a result of feeding our dried food.

Here is an extract from a letter sent to us from the RSPCA:
"Having now used Applaws Natural Complete cat food for the past six months I thought I would let you know how it has been received by the cats in our cattery.
Having used Applaws wet food in the cattery; we knew the cats flourished when we fed it, so we were hoping to get the same result with the dried food. I have to say that we were not disappointed, 99% of the cats eat the dried biscuits with gusto. The emaciated cats gain weight at a steady rate, the condition of their coats seems to improve and the cats are contented with the food."

We have been very patient with this customer's persistent negative commentary. However we feel the only course of action left open to us is to instruct our solicitors to begin libel proceedings.

If you require further information please email*customerservices@mpmproducts.co.uk

Assuring you of our best attention at all times


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Re: Trouble with Applaws dry

Benson, are you something to do with MPM products?
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Also, Benson, assuming you are connected with the company and not just an ordinary PF member, in which case I apologise for the bluntness of my question, if they're such an ethical company why haven't they responded to my question about animal welfare standards in Thailand, where they source their tinned chicken (and quite possibly their dry chicken catfood, for all I know)?
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Personally I would have a lot more respect for MPM if they actually registered on here and came on as themselves and made a statement - then we could ask them questions properly and they could respond to our concerns!

Maybe Benson you might be kind enough to pass that on as you seem to be the only one that has actually had a reply from all of the people on here that have asked questions!?
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