right the monster, neeps, has fleas.. and not matter waht we do she can't seem to shake them.

the whole house as been de-flead TWICE in 2 months and it's supposed to last for 12 months, i only get bitten when she's been on me, i never get bitten when i'm on 'our spot' on the couch. They dont have cat beds, they sleep on the couch. we don't have carpets downstairs and they're not allowed in the rooms that do and all have been treated (we've never been bitten in the rooms that do have carpet).
OH has only been bitted 3 times on the same night and never before or since.
other cat, bubs, has been treated with spot on and de-flea tablets and hasn't had a recurrence, but we treat her once a month now just to make sure.

neeps is allergic to the flea bites so de-furs her feet when they're attacking her again, so we know when the medications worn off. however, spot-on doesn't work! and flea tablets only seem to work for 4/5 days. the stuff we're using is the same stuff the vets will give us (the spot on was the stuff the vet gave us an after phoning our uncle who's a vet he told us what flea tablets to get).

does anyone have any other ideas as to how to get rid of them? neither cat have been 'infested' theres a small amount of fleas and the amount seems to be getting smaller each time BUT she's had fleas for 3 MONTHS!

other than shaving her bare, i can't see how else we can help her out she's a poor soul and always has things wrong with her, so can only assume that she's got a poor immune system which is causing her to de-flea badly and be more susceptible.

OH is taking her to the vets in a few weeks (once he's finished his redundancy period) so any advice before that would be great!

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A good Veterinary flea product like Advantage, Frontline etc should do the trick for the cat, and then a quality household spray.

I prefer StayKill for the house, but many vets no longer sell it, I believe the last can was bought from a Chemist..

As most of the cats that come into our care are flea infested, its the first thing we do, sign or no sign, and having a couple of cats with flea allergies I cant risk fleas, and to be honest have not had a problem whilst using Veterinary products.

So if they are not working check back with the Vet who can check with the manufacturer as to why they are not doing the trick.

i've already used those CP, they're not working.

we've used spot ons and tablets on the cats, spray and foggers on the house.. short of sheep dip i can't see anything else we can do

can't afford to make the house a roasting tin so heating the buggers up to hatch is out of the question.

it's working on bubs who has no allergies, it just with neeps who is allergic to their bites that there is a problem, we've used different makers versions so fipronil and similar chemicals (i work in a patent attorney so know all about these things lol having a large manufacture as a client, having a science degree helps too of course lmao). it's not a manufacturing problem.

neeps is dosed as soon as allowed, but we can't use the spot on on her as i think she is allergic to that too, when we use it her shoulders puff up. she doesn't seem to have any ill effect to the tablets and i think they work better systemically anyway so we're keeping her on them. bubs we spot on as she's a bugger to get tablets in, neeps eats them if we put themi n wet food with some dry mixed in lol she thinks the pills a biscuit..

I'll check out the link thanks crazy

pest control is out of the question, not just due to cost but as i said it's not an infestation, we only see flea dirt and i rarely get bitten but only when she's on me, which is most nights for several hours. i think just keep up the dosing until the vets appointment see how it goes..

poor old neeperzoid, i'll just have to put boxing gloves on her to stop her defurring her toes i think!

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It is a fact, as you will know, that by the end of each year, certain fleas will have developed a resistance to last years manufactured goods.. and that appears to be one of the factors here.

I too had a cat similar to Neeps.. and it is a problem..

One natural thing that could help is lavender oil.. placed around skirting boards, but be sure the cats cannot get it on paws.

Other than that, its going to have to be a Veterinary problem to sort out.

In the old days we could use products like Nuvan Top, but constant missuse by idiots, well there is no other description for people who dont read instructions, which worked no matter what.

But there are treatments, which you mention, which have been used with success on multi cat households with Veterinary descretion, however, I would think they can come up with something other than that for poor old Neeps...

Fingers crossed for you both..

You have to do the house every 2 days 3 or 4 times to start to crack a bad infestation, the spot ons won't work if there's a sourse of reinfestation constantly... it's the house that has to be a priority....

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there is no way we can do the house 3 or 4 times every 2 days! we have other animals that can't be moved that often. and it would mean the cats and us being out of the house for the what? 1/2 weeks? i don't think so..

the products state that they stop egg maturation so it can't be the 'house' that is causing the problem, as i said it's not an infestation, we aren't getting bitten enough for there to be large numbers, there are only couches for them fleas themselves to hide in other than the cats and they've been treated. The only source in the house, i can see is neeps herself where the eggs aren't being neutralized due to her assumed poor immune and system responses to the medications.

the other explaination is that patient zero is in daily contact with neeps and the fleas are transferring then and due to above mentioned she's not getting rid of them as easily as bubs.

CP resistance to the meds can't be it either or they wouldn't work on bubs. we have a wooden floor so there is no place the cats couldn't get to the oil.

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Have you tried contacting one of the manufacturers of the products you have used?

I know that Kaz is right, in that dont live on the cat, just feed, therefor a house spray, should work, but when its a cat with an allergy, just one resistant flea can cause a massive problem.

This is one stubborn problem...

yup well annoying. I also don't see how lavender oil would be more/equally as effective as the sprays and foggers that we've used.. they would do the same thing really just not leave a chemical residue and be toxic to us and the cats like the shop bought stuff, so wouldn't be more effective. will get a smelly candle or something and try i though.

i think we'll give fogging another go this weekend, give everything a move around again.. joy.

Why contact the manufacturers?

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