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Old 01-10-2009, 02:20 PM
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Re: Raw diet from the butcher

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where do i get taurine from and is it part of other supplements or can it be purchased on its own ... and also, how much and when?
I get mine here Taurine - Amino acids | myprotein.co.uk and mix this with lycine and rice bran. I mix up one tablespoon of lycine to half a tablespoon each of rice bran and taurine and each cat gets half a teaspoon of the mixture per day.

We also feed raw once per week minimum.
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Old 01-10-2009, 03:47 PM
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Re: Raw diet from the butcher

I think you should look up Feline future Instincts TC. & Feline Instincts my natural cat, even if you don't decide to purchase from them. They both have a good information site they explaine the reasons for raw & what vitamins/taurine/oils/minerals a cat needs & the amount's.
Instinct's TC was the original founder so I tend to stick with Natascha as she is alway's striving for the best for our feline buddies.
The pre mix is added to the meat along with water cod liver oil & in Baloo's case, cooked squash, unsalted butter, lecithin. So it sounds a lil bit of a hassle to make up his food, once it is prepared it is put into freezer pot's, frozen then thawed in the fridge for use.
I do a month or two's worth, & now it is just second nature to me. Yes at first I thought what the heck is this all about, do I realy need the hassle, but when he started to put his weight back on, his eyes are like huge clear saucer buttons, his fur is just to die for, soft sleek ( mind not when he has rolled in my veg plot). I know it's worth it.
So what I'm trying to say is don't just guess, there are recipe's out there you can use without the pre mixes, but I found trying to get all the ingredients in this country is hard.
By all means give chicken wings, mine just love them.
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Old 01-10-2009, 03:58 PM
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Re: Raw diet from the butcher

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My cats don't get fed supermarket food

I do not advocate that people buy supermarket value food, cheap awful rubbish. People shouldn't consider owning a pet if they are gonna feed it cheap 'white' label food.

It was you that kept going on about how much cheaper that it was gonna be!!! And plus the fact you didn't want to 'have to suppliement' (extra cost)????? I was just pointing out the pitfalls of raw feeding and educating about the importance of taurine to avoid feline heart failure, which is very common in raw fed cats!!!! Forgive me for caring....
Not wanting to supplement has nothing to do with cost, if I am going to convert my cats back to their natural diet I would rather do it without adding supplements or anything else which is unnatural. And thats it!
I don't see wild cats popping to the chemist for taurine top ups so I thought it must be possible to feed raw without supplements. I am asking questions and investigating responses and taking advice on board from people who know about this subject.

As I have stated cost is a factor in this but it is not the main reason I am considering it as I said if it were purely a money factor they would be getting the cheapest of the cheap commercial crap, which they are not!

While I thank you for your concern regarding the feeding of my cats I can assure you I am an intelligent and responsible enough pet owner to fully research anything so drastic before implementing it, hence starting this thread in the first place!!!!!!!
If you are unable to post without accusing me of counting costs before caring for my cats then please don't bother posting at all.
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Re: Raw diet from the butcher

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I think you should look up Feline future Instincts TC. & Feline Instincts my natural cat, even if you don't decide to purchase from them.
Where do you buy this from? I've googled and can't find any links that work
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Not wanting to supplement has nothing to do with cost, if I am going to convert my cats back to their natural diet I would rather do it without adding supplements or anything else which is unnatural. And thats it!
I don't see wild cats popping to the chemist for taurine top ups so I thought it must be possible to feed raw without supplements. I am asking questions and investigating responses and taking advice on board from people who know about this subject.

As I have stated cost is a factor in this but it is not the main reason I am considering it as I said if it were purely a money factor they would be getting the cheapest of the cheap commercial crap, which they are not!

While I thank you for your concern regarding the feeding of my cats I can assure you I am an intelligent and responsible enough pet owner to fully research anything so drastic before implementing it, hence starting this thread in the first place!!!!!!!
If you are unable to post without accusing me of counting costs before caring for my cats then please don't bother posting at all.
I am a qualified VN, but my advice is not good enough for you?
Taurine is a huge factor in raw feeding. I will not say sorry for pointing that out. So many touchy people on here....
I am walking away from your thread...
Your loss...
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:11 PM
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Re: Raw diet from the butcher

I didn't say your advice was not good enough I said I do not appreciate you making assumptions about myself and or the care of my animals!
You are not the only person to have pointed out the importance of taurine or other aspects of raw feeding but you are the only one who insulted me.
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I didn't say your advice was not good enough I said I do not appreciate you making assumptions about myself and or the care of my animals!
You are not the only person to have pointed out the importance of taurine or other aspects of raw feeding but you are the only one who insulted me.
I did not insult you! You just took it that way...

Feral cats eat WHOLE animals in the wild. Thats why they "don't need to go to the chemist for vitamins" as you so simplistically put it...
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:23 PM
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Re: Raw diet from the butcher

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Where do you buy this from? I've googled and can't find any links that work
Feline Future Cat Food Company Tatzenladen - Gutes für Samtpfoten (this is their Europe outlet)
Or put up Instincts raw feeding,
The Original Feline Instincts ® Cat Food Company - The Premier Nutritional Raw Meat Diet For Cats and Dogs - Natural Homemade Diet
I have just been on the site a min ago.
It's on whole web not just UK. hope this helps
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It was you that kept going on about how much cheaper that it was gonna be!!! And plus the fact you didn't want to 'have to suppliement' (extra cost)?????
Not insulting?

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I did not insult you! You just took it that way...

Feral cats eat WHOLE animals in the wild. Thats why they "don't need to go to the chemist for vitamins" as you so simplistically put it...
And again!?!

I hope your veterinary skills are better than your people skills!
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Re: Raw diet from the butcher

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I didn't say your advice was not good enough I said I do not appreciate you making assumptions about myself and or the care of my animals!
You are not the only person to have pointed out the importance of taurine or other aspects of raw feeding but you are the only one who insulted me.
Hi sweetie I don't think Tillysdream was (at) you hunny, I think may be when we are giving information,it get's a lil frustrating (too much input at once) you know what I mean She was just trying to point out the rvelance for Taurine, ok sweetie.
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