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Old 10-04-2009, 08:06 PM
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food question

I havnt asked on here as i am naughty and tend to give the cats whatever i buy

But im now looking at what the best food is for them they are just normal moggies, and my sister is getting a moggie kitten in a few weeks and wants to feed the best

Whats the best? and wheres the best place to buy i would like to mix feed wet and dry and Im also interested in RAW feeding

Any help would be fab Daynna x
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Re: food question

Oh, if you're interested in raw feeding check out the links at my blogg Riktig kattmat

You probably won't understand what I've written in the blogg since it's in Swedish but most of the links are in English.

Next after raw food I'd recommend canned food such as Bozita and if feeding dry food I'd recommend Eukanuba or Orijen due to the high meat content.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:05 PM
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Re: food question

Raw food -see posting in classified .

Ive just ordered some from food4cats to see how mine take to it.
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Re: food question

When feeding a good quality diet it is irrelelvant whether your cat is a moggie or a pedigree - i hae one of each and they eat the same. I give them a little dry every day (James Wellbeloved - cos they like it) and feed pouches of at least 50 - 60% meat - so nature's menu (from Pets@home), Hi-Life, Tesco's finest and Applaws. Also give them raw once a week too (chicken wings mainly) and any scrpas from when I am cooking. They are both doing really weel , even my Birman who is pregnant.
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Re: food question

I have a moggy and a Siamese and both now have raw diets with the occasional handful of James Wellbeloved biscuits. They both love raw food and I've had no tummy problems with either of them
There's lots of great advice on here about raw feeding.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:24 PM
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Re: food question

The best food would be the cat's natural diet in the wild, as this is what the cat has been designed to eat: mice, bugs, baby rabbits, birds, etc. This diet would be mostly meat, some organ meat, and some bones, too. Plus some fur, feathers, but that's often left - it's probably too chewy.

Right, so since our cats aren't wild, the next logical step is to think.. what can I feed my cat that's as close as possible to that natural diet that they're designed to eat? My first response would be that I would copy that diet and feed my cat a diet of 85% meat, 5-10 % organ meat and 5-10% bones. This is often known as the 'Prey' model as it aims to replicate the content of their natural prey as far as possible. The exact percentages will vary depending on the individual cat. Many people won't have the time or inclination to do this for a pet, which is fair enough. If you're interested in finding out more about raw feeding, a good place to start is to do a search on these forums. Also, the Yahoo group Rawcat has been hugely helpful for me when I started feeding raw rawcat : Raw Cat

So, what is the next best thing if I can't/won't feed raw? Logically, cooked meats! But cooking reduces taurine and vitamines in the meat, so I'd then need to add this back in. In essence, this is what is referred to as wet food. Convenient, and contains all that a cat would need (in theory). Now, to ensure the cat gets enough nutrients I'd want to make sure the wet food contains as much meat as possible, because remember in the wild when they were eating mice and birds, meat was the main ingredient. So, I'd like it to be the same for this. Also, I'd want to make sure the food doesn't contain anything else - for some reason, companies like to make money (!) and tend to put less meat in and replace it with cheap fillers such as wheat or corn. How much wheat or corn or any other vegetable do you think there is in a mouse? That's right, close to none! So, rule out any wet food with anything other than meat and added vitamines in it. Apart from being boiled, and having had vitamines and such added back to it to make up for the nutrient loss, this food is still not horribly far removed from the natural diet we started out with. Some decent wet foods are: HiLife pouches, Applaws Kitten, Bozita, Porta 21. Make sure they're marked as 'Complete' and not 'Complementary' as the complementary foods will not contain sufficient nutrients for your cat.

Now, assuming you're not happy with feeding wet food for some reason. The only remaining option is then to feed dry food. Dry food consists of meat (so far, so good) but also a lot of fillers such as grains. This is added because it's cheap (see making money above) but also because dry food can't be made without them. Grains are typically classified as carbohydrates and are composed mostly of starch. The main function of carbohydrates in the process of manufacturing dry pet foods is to provide structural integrity to the biscuits. The starch works like a "cement" that holds the biscuits together, preventing crumbling throughout the manufacturing process. So, dry food is highly processed, cooked at very high temperatures, added grains/carbohydrates, close to zero water, low meat protein biscuits with added vitamines and minerals. Now, think back to the natural diet of meat, organs and bone - not very similar is it? If you want to feed dry, Applaws and Orijen are the best of the bunch.
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Re: food question

Coraline - you are officially my hero. Lol. Excellent post and says everything that I believe too.

I have one moggie and one siamese and I feed them a mixture of different brands.
When I'm here I give them either pouches of Bozita or Applaws. We are also now trying raw food with them every other day. My siamese didn't get on with Porta 21, but it did smell amazing. They are both loving the raw food, which I bought via another members post in the classified section. Their excellent site is here

My two also have an auto feeder which dispenses a small amount of dry food twice a day. In this I've put Orijen and Applaws dry. Definately the best dry food I could find out there.

You can order all the wet and dry I've mentioned from Zooplus - Excellent service and decent prices. I buy in bulk to save the postage cost (Free over £29)
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Re: food question

Brilliant Thank you very much! I'll have a really good look and read this evening when the kids have gone to bed. And i'll let my sister know aswell!

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