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Old 05-12-2008, 07:46 PM
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Hi All,

I know you’ve answered countless q’s about peeing but I can’t find anything specifically for this:

We have 3 cats. 2y/o, 18mth old and 8mth old.

All get along fine, but our 18mth old Elmo has suddenly started spraying on our curtains and repeatedly going to his litter but only doing a dribble (ocassionally with blood in). He’s had the test for crystals and infection at the vet which has shown up blank but he’s still doing it.

Our 8mth kitten can’t be fixed (too high fCov) and has been in season.

Any ideas what’s going on or how what to do?
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Stupid question but have you had him neutered??? and if you did how old was he when it was done as if it was late on in life they usually still spray.

It most probably is linked to having an un spayed female in the house so it looks like a tricky situation
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Hi - sounds like Elmo has cystitis, does he eat a lot of dried food? If so, then try to cut it down and give him more good quality (high meat content) wet food. Is he neutered BTW? Cystitis is only very rarely caused by infection, stress can cause it and perhaps your girl being in season isn't helping.

Not sure how high is "too high" for coronavirus, but many cats do test positive for this and they are perfectly healthy. I'm not sure why your girl can't be spayed if she's in good health, but obviously you need to discuss this with your vet.

hope Elmo will be better soon.





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Hi All,

I know you’ve answered countless q’s about peeing but I can’t find anything specifically for this:

We have 3 cats. 2y/o, 18mth old and 8mth old.

All get along fine, but our 18mth old Elmo has suddenly started spraying on our curtains and repeatedly going to his litter but only doing a dribble (ocassionally with blood in). He’s had the test for crystals and infection at the vet which has shown up blank but he’s still doing it.

Our 8mth kitten can’t be fixed (too high fCov) and has been in season.

Any ideas what’s going on or how what to do?
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He was nutered at about 6 months (or whetever the earlest possibility was).

I can't decide whether it's behaviour or illness. The vet has given him antibiotics. I just find it odd that he's in and out of the letter (3 times in the last hour and only a dribble each time) and has suddenly started spraying.

The vet has given us some options:

1) X-ray
2) Felway Phermone
3) More Anti biotics,

Now as I understand it it's highly unlikely to be a bacterial disease as he's young and it's very rare due to urine concentration at his age, also nothing grew in the culture the vet did. So I reckon 3) is out.

I don't really want to go with 2) as he's always been happy and I don't think it will solve the issue rather than mask it.

I think I may be rambling...............
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Very unlikely to be bacterial - it seems that vets can never understand that cats only get urinary infections VERY rarely!
It would certainly be worth giving the Feliway a try - it can't do any harm and might help.

But diet change is the easiest thing to try in the first instance. Someone else on here had the same problem a few months ago - she stopped feeding her cat dried food, the cystitis was gone in a couple of days........



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He was nutered at about 6 months (or whetever the earlest possibility was).

I can't decide whether it's behaviour or illness. The vet has given him antibiotics. I just find it odd that he's in and out of the letter (3 times in the last hour and only a dribble each time) and has suddenly started spraying.

The vet has given us some options:

1) X-ray
2) Felway Phermone
3) More Anti biotics,

Now as I understand it it's highly unlikely to be a bacterial disease as he's young and it's very rare due to urine concentration at his age, also nothing grew in the culture the vet did. So I reckon 3) is out.

I don't really want to go with 2) as he's always been happy and I don't think it will solve the issue rather than mask it.

I think I may be rambling...............
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Hi - sounds like Elmo has cystitis, does he eat a lot of dried food? If so, then try to cut it down and give him more good quality (high meat content) wet food. Is he neutered BTW? Cystitis is only very rarely caused by infection, stress can cause it and perhaps your girl being in season isn't helping.

Not sure how high is "too high" for coronavirus, but many cats do test positive for this and they are perfectly healthy. I'm not sure why your girl can't be spayed if she's in good health, but obviously you need to discuss this with your vet.

hope Elmo will be better soon.
I think cyctitis seems to be the main suspect, but would this explain the spraying? Do you know anything about what good wet foods are? They all eat felix wet at the moment.

The risk associated with fCov developing into fip in the little girl if we have her fixed is quite high. Apparently the mutation can be caused by stress and she had very high levels which add to the issue. She is however going for more bloods soon as fcov can be shed so fingers crossed.
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Very unlikely to be bacterial - it seems that vets can never understand that cats only get urinary infections VERY rarely!
It would certainly be worth giving the Feliway a try - it can't do any harm and might help.

But diet change is the easiest thing to try in the first instance. Someone else on here had the same problem a few months ago - she stopped feeding her cat dried food, the cystitis was gone in a couple of days........
Right I'm going to try the food - What's good wet food?
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Yes, the cystitis could well cause spraying.

Felix is not a good quality food
It only has 4% meat content, and also contains vegetable protein.
Better foods to try would be Hi Life 60% meat, Applaws, Encore (Sainsburys equivalent of Applaws), Natures Menu, Tesco Finest / Luxury ranges, Bozita. Look for a meat content of at least 50%. You could also try fresh or cooked meats, and maybe some cooked white fish occasionally. But the most important thing is to increase moisture intake, which means cutting down drastically on dried foods.



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I think cyctitis seems to be the main suspect, but would this explain the spraying? Do you know anything about what good wet foods are? They all eat felix wet at the moment.

The risk associated with fCov developing into fip in the little girl if we have her fixed is quite high. Apparently the mutation can be caused by stress and she had very high levels which add to the issue. She is however going for more bloods soon as fcov can be shed so fingers crossed.
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Sorry - not actually sure if you're in the UK, and of course the foods I mentioned are mostly UK foods!
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Thanks all,

I a in the UK, first thing tmw i'm off for a truck load of those recomendations.

Out of curiosity what is the link between spraying and cystitis?
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